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Bhaugh

by Bhaugh on 17 September 2012 - 00:09

I have a dog that is currently treating with DMSO, only 3 applications, for a tunor that is not operatable on his face. Other than it seeming to make him happier as he now is running around again, has anyone successfully used it to treat tumors? I know Ive only applied it 3 times but it doesnt seem to be getting much smaller. In a day or so I will be adding baking soda as I have heard this does work well.

Or any kind of sickies you have used it on?

Thanks
Barb

Red Sable

by Red Sable on 17 September 2012 - 00:09

Interesting. 
We use it on horses, internally for cleansing, (gives them what smells like garlic breath) and externally to help shrink swellling caused from injury.

Let us know how it works!

by Alamance on 17 September 2012 - 01:09

Radiation?  Specialist vet is Dr Proulx @ 760/431-2273 Thumbs Up  Teeth Smile  He is NOT cheap but he is not a scam artist either.

You know some people have drunk the stuff.  They died anyway.  You could use Compound W as it is suppose to get rid of warts.Thumbs Down Devil Smile

Suggest you not tell that vet or staff you are using that stuff.  Guess that I should tell our wonderful vet that instead of paying him a huge sum on a brain tumor that could not be operated on, I could have just poured that scam stuff down her throat.  But my vet killed the tumor with his method!!!!!!  He walks on water!!!!!

Bhaugh

by Bhaugh on 17 September 2012 - 01:09

People can be so nice on here...Sad Smile

Radiation is not an option in this case. And just so you know K9nme, DMSO is being used successfully in Cancer clinics in the US on humans none the less. Bet that's surprising to you!

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 17 September 2012 - 02:09

Bhaugh, you can't fix ignorance. You're wasting your breath w/someone of that mentality. 

by hexe on 17 September 2012 - 03:09

Um, yeah, have to be honest, I know of many instances wherein people have tried this type of treatment, but aside from it being effective for against interstitial cystitis (not a cancer), and as an anti-inflammatory agent and a carrier agent for other drugs and medications, I've yet to see an instance where DMSO was successful in treating any form of cancer.

You stated that the mass is inoperable; have you looked into whether it can be debulked, at least, using cryogenic cauterization or one of the newer lasers? Have you had a biopsy done to determine if it even IS cancer, and not something fungal?

DMSO info

Bhaugh

by Bhaugh on 17 September 2012 - 04:09

I have had a biopsy done on it. And although its benign, its growing through the sinus cavity and has created an oral tumor in his mouth. The holistic vet said that oral tumors are very hard to treat and the surgery that was offered to me is basically flaying open the side of his face and "hope they can get the tumor" No guarantees of course. I saw pictures of the surgery and I won't go that route. Ive talked to others who had the surgery done and they wouldnt recommend it.

Ive tried a few Nsaids, did pred for about 4 months (which I detest but thought if it helped I'd have to try it), which initially worked well but stopped working and created some horrible side effects. My guy stopped being himself and just slept all day along  and he could barely breath out of his nose.

He had to be on antibiotics for 3 weeks to get rid of the horrible bladder infection he got that was masked by the pred. I never did a straight answer why while taking the pred, eating raw diet actually made all his conditions worse. He has always been on raw (he is 7) but during his 4 mo plight with the pred, he became allergic to the meat. Now with using the DMSO, he is back to eating raw and actually has energy (Im sure by just being off the pred). It has definitely helped him feel better and has reduced some of the swelling.

Im not new to the tumor game and have been doing research on tumors since 2006. I was working with a rat rescue for tester remedies on rats that were dying from tumors. Some of my testing worked but then again it was on rats not dogs. I work in the medical field and have talked to several physicians about tumor growth. I was amazed that many of the physicians I talked to had 0 idea why tumors grow or really how they start. I have my own beliefs but that isnt the topic here. So as much of a quacky post this started out with people thinking I am just a nut, really that isnt the case at all. I just never thought I would be treating my own dog.

I know that DMSO is a carrier even for many cancer drugs but it has also been used for non cancer treatments. I posted, because one never knows who might be out there that actually has done this. Ive read the research from the physician from Italy who now feels that cancer is started by fungus. John Hopkins University has also started research in this area. Your mention of fungas intrigued me after reading the research. The question to you Hexe would be, how to remove the tumor currently weaving its way through the sinus's with fungal meds or if that would even work?

by Soli on 17 September 2012 - 06:09

Baught, try inyections of sodium bicarbonate directly on the tumor. Surely your dog will improve and the cost is very cheap.  Cancer is a fungus and sodium bicarbonate will destroy it.

Wish you dog the best luck..

by hexe on 17 September 2012 - 06:09

GSDs are notoriously susceptible to aspergillosis, which is what made me think of fungal as opposed to cancer.  Typically, treatments for the fungal diseases are systemic antifungal agents.

Bhaugh, I don't think you're 'a nut'--just haven't seen any strong supportive evidence that DMSO has much anti-tumor effects on its own.  I understand where you're coming from--my screen name dog, when diagnosed with mixed mammary cancer, was on a pokeweed extract for its immuno-modulating effects; I'd have much rather been able to isolate the specific pokeweed mitogen, but wasn't able to find a lab that wanted to deal with extracting and purifying it, and what's commercially available isn't suitable for use as a chemotherapy agent. I was involved in a Univ of New Mexico School of Pharmacology veterinary trial of the anti-cancer effects of a particular pokeweed mitogen, and saw it put a senior dog with confirmed malignant oral melanoma with infiltration to the bone, and metastasis to the lungs into remission for years--eventually clearing the lungs of any evidence of mets, too--so I have the full protocol info, right down to the method used to create the agent for injection. The dog eventually passed from basic old-dog stuff like kidney failure at the hearty old age of 13...not bad for a Husky/Lab cross.

So...I'm all for you searching out whatever you can for your boy.  I just don't have a lot of faith in DMSO for this application, that's all.  I still wonder if cryocautery wouldn't be an option, if done endoscopically...If I think of anything that might be useful for you, I'll let you know right away.  Sending good thoughts your way.

(Funny how many people swear they'll never do chemotherapy for a pet with cancer, yet will go the alternative medicine route and use DMSO, pokeweed extract, Hoxsey therapy, and so forth, not acknowledging that these agents are ALSO chemotherapy--just not conventional chemo. Still possibility of side effects from any of them).

starrchar

by starrchar on 17 September 2012 - 07:09

A friend of mine had a GSD that developed a tumor on the elbow due to an injury. The DMSO helped to shrink the tumor and kept it under control for many years.  This person's vet originally said there was no hope to shrink the tumor and Dr. Dodd's recommended trying the DMSO. According to my friend the result of treating his dog with the DMSO was miraculous. I don't know if this information is helpful or not, but I thought I'd share it. 





 


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