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by Videx on 12 July 2012 - 11:07
APGAW: Associate Parliamentary Group for Animal Welfare (UK)
A HEALTHIER FUTURE FOR PEDIGREE DOGS - 2012
http://www.apgaw.org/images/stories/PDFs/Dog-Breeding-Report-2012.pdf
"An APGAW questionnaire revealed that its stakeholders want the Assured Breeder Scheme (ABS) to be independent, health screening to be made obligatory for its members, and unannounced, regular spot checks made.
With regard to showing, most respondents to the questionnaire want health checks to take place ‘in the primary rounds of showing or even before so that dogs not clear of hereditary disease or overly-enhanced characteristics do not even enter the show ring’."
by Kaffirdog on 12 July 2012 - 16:07
Some of this sounds a bit extreme.
"Breeders of dogs that have failed screening tests should not be registered by any organisation"
Do they actually mean puppies from failed dogs should not be registered?
"Not more than 5 litters from one stud dog"
"Judges must not be breeders of the breed they are judging"
Does whoever drafted this live in the real world?
Margaret N-J
"Breeders of dogs that have failed screening tests should not be registered by any organisation"
Do they actually mean puppies from failed dogs should not be registered?
"Not more than 5 litters from one stud dog"
"Judges must not be breeders of the breed they are judging"
Does whoever drafted this live in the real world?
Margaret N-J
by Hundmutter on 13 July 2012 - 08:07
Like all these things its a bit of a camel drafted by comittee.
Lot of q's need ironing out first - e.g. in some circs, what IS a 'Fail' ? HD Score above the Breed Mean ?
I sort of like the back-handed delivery of the ABS going independent of the KC ! But would that open it
up to the RSPCA or Peta stepping in to control it ?
Linda.
Lot of q's need ironing out first - e.g. in some circs, what IS a 'Fail' ? HD Score above the Breed Mean ?
I sort of like the back-handed delivery of the ABS going independent of the KC ! But would that open it
up to the RSPCA or Peta stepping in to control it ?
Linda.
by Hundmutter on 13 July 2012 - 09:07
And ... as usual, the contribution made by Clubs and smaller groups to health research &c has been
glossed over;
as usual Tattooing is ignored as an alternative to micro-chipping;
and also as usual, you'd think they had not had any letters from individuals ...
glossed over;
as usual Tattooing is ignored as an alternative to micro-chipping;
and also as usual, you'd think they had not had any letters from individuals ...
by Abby Normal on 13 July 2012 - 18:07
I have always liked the concept of breeders not judging their own breed. This is one way of minimising the politics, favouritism and corruption that plagues judging in some instances.
It would also IMHO help to keep the breed (whatever it may be) on track to the standard and not reward breeder/judge fads for certain traits which stray away from those standards and lure others towards them when they are rewarded in the show ring.
It would also IMHO help to keep the breed (whatever it may be) on track to the standard and not reward breeder/judge fads for certain traits which stray away from those standards and lure others towards them when they are rewarded in the show ring.
by Videx on 16 July 2012 - 11:07
BUMP
by Sylvan on 22 July 2012 - 22:07
Some suggestions are very good, other parts less so. However, what truly scare me is the KC response to this. I'm so happy I don't live in England and have to deal with their ilk. I occassionaly critize the Swedish Kennel Club, but I am somewhat proud of them and how serious they tackle issues by acknowledging them and trying to better the health of our beloved dog breeds.
No offense to British breeders reading this who actually care about the health of their dogs, who "goes further than the KC requires" (which, let's be honest, isn't a hell of a lot...).
No offense to British breeders reading this who actually care about the health of their dogs, who "goes further than the KC requires" (which, let's be honest, isn't a hell of a lot...).
by Hundmutter on 23 July 2012 - 09:07
Yes Sylvan there are those of us who quite often think things we hear about the attitude of your Swedish 'KC' are
much to be envied
. Unfortunately attempts to get the UK KC to behave less like an old fart's club and more
like a serious professional registry have so far been less than completely successful. LOL !
much to be envied
. Unfortunately attempts to get the UK KC to behave less like an old fart's club and morelike a serious professional registry have so far been less than completely successful. LOL !
by Videx on 23 July 2012 - 11:07
I can only agree with the above comment - many attempts made over the tears, particularly by the GSD breed - NO success.
by marjorie on 25 July 2012 - 03:07
--- >"Judges must not be breeders of the breed they are judging"
I think this is the way to stop the politics in judging. Either that, or only retired breeders judging. It is an extreme notion, but politics have taken the breed to extremes. IMHO, extreme measures will have to be taken to get the breed back on track.
---> "Not more than 5 litters from one stud dog"
sure beats 100 or more, leading to bottlenecks in the breed. Things like bloat and DM dont show up until an age at which studs have been repeatedly used, and once the proverbial cat is out of the bag, you aint gonna be able to stuff it back in. Overuse of stud dogs can cripple a breed, IMHO.
I wish the breed clubs here would be more proacative.
Marjorie
http://www.gsdbbr.org The German Shepherd Dog Breed Betterment Registry (a worldwide health registry for registered German Shepherds)
BE PROACTIVE!
http://mzjf.com --> The Degenerative Myelopathy Support Group
http://www.mzjf.info/hgate Heaven's Gate
I think this is the way to stop the politics in judging. Either that, or only retired breeders judging. It is an extreme notion, but politics have taken the breed to extremes. IMHO, extreme measures will have to be taken to get the breed back on track.
---> "Not more than 5 litters from one stud dog"
sure beats 100 or more, leading to bottlenecks in the breed. Things like bloat and DM dont show up until an age at which studs have been repeatedly used, and once the proverbial cat is out of the bag, you aint gonna be able to stuff it back in. Overuse of stud dogs can cripple a breed, IMHO.
I wish the breed clubs here would be more proacative.
Marjorie
http://www.gsdbbr.org The German Shepherd Dog Breed Betterment Registry (a worldwide health registry for registered German Shepherds)
BE PROACTIVE!
http://mzjf.com --> The Degenerative Myelopathy Support Group
http://www.mzjf.info/hgate Heaven's Gate
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