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by judron55 on 16 May 2012 - 12:05
Dog passes BH during the time when gunshot was used...dog is now going on four yrs....won't stay on down when gun is fired...on or off field....I say you can mask this problem but, you will never know when it will show up...but, it will show up...opinions please
by RLHAR on 16 May 2012 - 12:05
Is it gun shyness or gun reactive?
My bitch (before I switched focus to tracking titles) required a lot of aggitation in bitework a lot of whip cracks and the like. As a result when she heard the startle pistol she was up like a shot looking for the guy with the sleeve.
Shotguns or any weapon with a deeper report she wouldn't even blink at but something about that starter pistol crack = whip crack to her and it meant time for BITEWORK! Had to go back and reproof her platz and heeling for obedience and she is still very, very alert whenever she hears the pistol.
My bitch (before I switched focus to tracking titles) required a lot of aggitation in bitework a lot of whip cracks and the like. As a result when she heard the startle pistol she was up like a shot looking for the guy with the sleeve.
Shotguns or any weapon with a deeper report she wouldn't even blink at but something about that starter pistol crack = whip crack to her and it meant time for BITEWORK! Had to go back and reproof her platz and heeling for obedience and she is still very, very alert whenever she hears the pistol.
by Bob McKown on 16 May 2012 - 12:05
What type of response are you geting?. My Axel was responsive to gun fire same as RLHAR shot gun or 45. never bothered him both a 22 made him fire up. I,ve got some old video,s of Schutzhund work where they line up the dogs and fire the gun many of the dogs lept forward and barked aggresivley to the gun fire bur only the ones that went backwards away from the gun fire were dismissed. Reactiveness can be rorked thru. Pissing them selves and runnig away is another story. JMHO
by judron55 on 16 May 2012 - 14:05
running away.....won't come to handler...cowering...slouching behavior....I know the aggressive/reactive response...I'd much rather deal with that then the other:-) If I'm working her in protection (I'm the helper) she is ok if gun is fired....I'll pay attention tonight concerning heeling...
by Bob McKown on 16 May 2012 - 14:05
In my opinion those first 4 reactions you mentioned are tought to work thru. Yes i,d like to know what the dog does during healing and obedience. Good Luck. Just wondering what lines are the dog out of?
by duke1965 on 16 May 2012 - 16:05
judron , must be no surprise to you that a dog can take more pressure in protection when drives are higher , did you see the BH trail when dog passed ? or was the dog purchased already with BH?
by judron55 on 16 May 2012 - 16:05
duke1965....you're right about the drive comment....I did not see the BH but she did it here in the states...
by Gustav on 16 May 2012 - 19:05
Whether it is reactive or gun shyness, a 4 year old dog who has been given the command platz and won't maintain it under gunfire indicates nerve issues to me. All nerve issues are not shyness.....but solid nerve works in drive or out of drive....that's why it is so important.JMO
by joanro on 17 May 2012 - 00:05
Could be a training issue if the dog thinks crack of gun is crack of whip. Povlovian response...Reward is imminent in the way of bite work.
by Chaz Reinhold on 17 May 2012 - 00:05
Joanro, if the dog is reacting like Ron said, it isn't the whip theory.
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