What do you guys think of this pedigree? - Page 1

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=695712

Sorry to ask but am not in the know about a lot of UK and EU dogs. Thanks!

Where are all the hip scores for the parents? What is a score of 9 on the dog itself and a 10 on the sire (I'm not sure what rating they're using)?

The UK has a different hip scoring system, which I recall went up to 55, so a 10 would probably be good.

Hi

I have pasted this info from the UK KC website so it is clear

The hip score is the sum of the points awarded for each of nine aspects of the X-rays of both hip joints. The minimum hip score is 0 and the maximum is 106 (53 for each hip). The lower the score the less the degree of hip dysplasia present. An average (or mean) score is calculated for all breeds scored under the scheme and advice for breeders is to use only breeding stock with scores well below the breed mean score.

So each hip will be scored between 0 & 53 
3 x examples of results would be  8:3    2:6   10:19   32:12 

each hip score is added together to give a total score  e.g.  11   -    8     -   29    -  44
the GSD breed mean score is 18 which would make the third & fourth score above over the acceptable amount for breeding.  A Malinois for example has a mean score of  9 which all four examples would be over.  For breeding it is desired to stay within the mean score for the breed in question.

The score you state is 10 which is good low score.


Different breed Mean Scores (BMS) are listed below if you are interested
www.bva.co.uk/public/documents/Breed_Specific_Statistics_2012.pdf

The link below shows you average breed scores and a chart for comparing scoring authorities e.g. BVA -FCI -OFA -SV 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_score

Hope this helps

Sue

Some nice working lines in the pedigree....I would be careful about hips and aggression but not enough to dissuade me from considering a dog of this ilk as a fine working prospect.

Make sure you put the work in if you get a pup from the those lines; they are not for the feint hearted!

More a case of be careful what you wish for; rough diamonds spring to mind.

Ronin

Socialize.. socialize.. socialize.. work work work.. just be prepared for what you are in for! Be ready for a commitment.. Be dominant and secure in yourself and it will pass on to your training partner! good luck and watch this ones drive! you channel this one right and it will be perfect for you!! Swingfield

You have to be totaly committed to working these lines, 10 is a good score here in the UK, Margaret Nyrvana-Jones Kaffirdog on here breeds Working dogs, enjoy and have fun with this dog

 

hi

from  looking   on  the  kc  website  i  cant  see any  records  that  the  mother  vomhausnye  quartz  has  been  hip  scored ?   plenty  of  her  progeny  look  to  have  been  though, 

I do not know how much experience you have with GSD.  This is a really nice breeding for some one with LOTS of experience.  If you are planning on working your dog hard and heavy.  If you want a first time breeding dog or a family protection dog. Please look elsewhere.  I have seen alot of handler agression from this type of breeding, not saying there are not fantastic dogs with this pedigree.  If you have a mentor who will work with you or if you have worked PPD before this is a great great combination.  I dont want anyone thinking I dont like this type of breeding I do!!  That being said I have also seen many dogs of this breeding euthanized because they were in the hands of the inexpereinced. Evaluate your skill level honestly before looking at this litter.  The all important biddability factor can be missing in some dogs with this breeding.  I have seen alot who say "make me" as early as 7 months of age.  Rough Diamonds is the best description I have ever heard!