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by Shapes on 24 April 2012 - 10:04
Sorry to disappoint you dogshome9 but i never gave an xray away as I never had it, the people that owned the pup owned it, I'm a friend of theirs that felt their side need to be told. Obviously you didn't take the advise of other people's comments on the other forum you started in oz about ownership of photos, they all said they are the are the property of the person that took them even if there was No conditions. As for the lawyer thing i believe what was said was that was a different matter and that's not what you both weren't there for. You posted the picture on here freely for everyone to see and never put any conditions on that photo so it is the same thing just one was sent and the other was posted on a forum, but I do agree it is a very low act of this person just as it was a low act of you to post the xray! By the way it IS NOT your dog you are simply the breeder as the pedigree papers say you are the breeder and they are the owners!
by magdalenasins on 24 April 2012 - 11:04
By that logic wouldn't all x ray images be owned and copyrighted by x ray techs?
by Rass on 24 April 2012 - 12:04
Images are the property of the veterinary office and the owner of the dog who paid the bill for the Xrays and the vet read of them at the time they were taken.
My dog's breeder wanted all my dog's vet records (she was co owner on the registration papers). I had paid all the vet expenses and I told the breeder I would release the records when she gave me payment for half the dog's vet bills (after all, she was co owner...). I never heard another word about it after that.
Once the Xrays (or any images) are published on a public forum, it is pretty difficult to maintain copyrights. This is why pro photographers watermark the images and use low resolution images.. and usually lock them so it is more difficult to copy them.
In this digital age it is very difficult to retain copyrights of images and enforce copyrights of images.
That being said, if someone is scamming people to sell something they do not have, they are going to use whatever images they can find.
My dog's breeder wanted all my dog's vet records (she was co owner on the registration papers). I had paid all the vet expenses and I told the breeder I would release the records when she gave me payment for half the dog's vet bills (after all, she was co owner...). I never heard another word about it after that.
Once the Xrays (or any images) are published on a public forum, it is pretty difficult to maintain copyrights. This is why pro photographers watermark the images and use low resolution images.. and usually lock them so it is more difficult to copy them.
In this digital age it is very difficult to retain copyrights of images and enforce copyrights of images.
That being said, if someone is scamming people to sell something they do not have, they are going to use whatever images they can find.
by Shapes on 24 April 2012 - 21:04
Thank you so much magdalenasins and Rass this is the point I was trying to make to dogshome9 but for some silly reason dogshome9 can't understand that any photo/xray belongs and any copyright belongs to the person that either took or paid for the original so regardless if it is either posted or a copy sent via a photo all copyrights belong to that person.
by Riccos Dad on 29 April 2012 - 11:04
http://www.tineye.com/ This is a website that you can scour the internet to see if anyone has used your picture. If you have a DSLR or other type camera that will allow you to input exif data i.e your name and other info, I would suggest that you do that. I use a Nikon D3 that has this capability. I simply put "Copyright 2012 and my name" This data AFIK cannot be removed. it is a digital fingerprint if you will. I had a picture stolen from me just about 3 weeks ago. I contacted him and asked where he got the pic from, he stated off the internet. I made him remove it, after proving to him that it was mine. Hope this helps. Mike
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