Black toes on sable pups - Page 1

I'm looking at a litter of pups, all sables. I might take one of the males if he has the temperment I'm looking for. All of the pups have black toes and I'm wondering if that's an indicator that they'll all be dark or black sables?


Thanks,
Juno11

Black toes/black nails is an indication for strong pigment, penciling and tar heels is usually associated with dark sable pattern, sable with recessive black gene or sable with recessive bi-color gene. Good luck. It can help if you post the parents pedigrees to make a guess about the colors.

Ibrahim

Hi, Here are the pedigrees. There are some dark sables, some midtoned and some solid black. All the pups have black toes and some coats are a bit darker then others.
Thanks,
Juno 11

The father of the litter is a mid toned sable. His parents are :

father is Avar bohemia rom-pan
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=629745 

Mother is Pam Hartis Bohemia
 
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=559842 

The mother of the litter is solid black. The pedigree of her father and mother are below:

mothers side. Harieta ze Zlataku with Oskar z Milberku
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=612021 

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=531377


Father's parents Lary Bret-Bett with Nika od Roubenky
 
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=454367

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=531017 


 

Like this?  

He's starting his coat change on the sides finally, and a lot of black is slowly sstarting to show through, on the hocks on the back legs, and some black is coming through where the  brown is on the front of the front legs.  That picture doesn't show the coloring too well, for some reason it looks like there is brownish color on the black going down the front legs. I can't help you as far as finding a litter though.

The pups are more than likely with pencil toes = black sable and will be black recessive due to the mom.

Male (Sable / Sable) + Female (black / black) = All pups will be Sable with black recessive.

Male (Sable / B&T) + Female (black / black) = 1/2 will be Sable with black recessive, 1/2 Black&Tan with black recessive,

Male (Sable / black) + Female (black / black) = 1/2 will be Sable with black recessive, 1/2 all black.