Buyer Beware - DM information - Page 1

BOTH parents need to be DNA tested for DM, not just the sire. It is not fair advertising to say that a litter is "DM free" based only on the NN status of the sire. The dam must be tested too. While a NN cannot produce an at risk, if bred to an at risk or to a carrier, there will be resulting carriers that can produce at risks.

Be smart, insist that BOTH parents are tested before you drink the Kool Aid.

But if you're not planning to breed. . . . .?

LOL....No difference if you were looking for a pet that would not be bred.

Hi Blitzen,

I know the ad you are referring too, it is actually my friends ad. And you'll be happy to know that all of her puppies are sold on limited registration only and none of them will ever be bred. I believe she uses the wording DM free because the puppies will never get DM therefore they are DM free technically, but she does not use the word clear because that is how we refer to dogs that test n/n. Just wanting to clear things up a bit as I know her ad does not state limited registration only, but clients are made aware when they call or email. They can't even earn breeding rights, it is an unchangeable part of her contract. Thanks for listening :)

Barbie

I am so glad others are starting to test for DM, I lost my Tessa Vom Hidden Haus from DM at age 3,

The my MACE's ODA is a DM carrier too, ODA is a Malinois!

My ODA is so sweet, I miss her so much. This little girl was such a lover, so kind & gentle.
For being a JASTA daughter, I really thought I would have my hands full after seeing somebody
making a name post about Jasta. I was a bit nervous really. When baby baby girl came to us sick & we made her better ( 3 tries for clearing up giarda ) I was so very much in love with her.
She is such a sweet girl!

If you learn about DM you will find out that it is in many breeds, OFA won't place Mali's on the DM list until they get a Mali with full blown DM. Then they have to have the dog put down to get a sample of the dogs spinal tissue and test it. Then & only then will Mali's be placed on the DM list.
There is nothing to stop anybody testing for DM.

BUT YES! BOTH PARENTS MUST BE TESTED TO FIND OUT WHO IS THE DM CARRIER!

A WONDERFUL 65.00 TEST WITH OFA OR DDC VETS   A SIMPLE CHEEK SWAB!

your dog must NOT have had anything to drink or eat for 2 hours prior to the test. NOT EVEN play with any shared toys!  Then you simply swab the inside of the dogs cheek & send off to the labs.
it is SO EASY!

We will NEVER buy from any breeder that wont DM test there dogs!

Nothing is worse then to see your beautiful girl slowly be disabled & hurt by horrible backyard breeders that wont fully test there stock.

How do you feel when you pay 800,  1000,  1500 or 2000 for a dog that is suffering as an adult
and has to be put down in your arms....  so what do you think of breeders not testing there dogs now?

Each & every dog being bred needs to be tested to stop this.

DM is the HUMAN FORM OF MS, right? That is how I read is as

PLEASE test your dogs before you breed  :)

Well, yes I am glad to hear that. I see that ad now reflects the fact that all puppies are sold as companions only with limited registration.  Did it say that before and I missed it? If so, I apologize for not recognizing that.

Actually I've seen other ads worded in a similar way without the limited registration provision. It's semantics, but could and probably will be misconstured by the novice or uniformed buyer to mean that only one parent needs to be tested which we  know is not generally true. Given some here say they never even heard of DM before we talked about it here, I have to wonder if there is a good understanding of the mode of inheritance.

I'm not quite sure why anyone with an n/n dog would give stud service to an untested bitch, but obviously there's a lot about this breed I'll never understand.

ALS & MS combined;  terrible, horrific disease.

Oregon, the most current thinking is that canine DM is the human equivilent of ALS/Lou Gehrigs disease. That could be very good news for the breed as it should open the door to receiving some nice grants for studying this disease. It's always a good thing when a breed of dog can offer a canine model for a human disease.

You didn't miss it Blitzen LOL. She did just add that they are only sold with limited registration as family companions as well as the price ranges for her puppies. I called her to tell her she may want to add that to her advertisement and she had thought she had it on there as it was a copy past thing but in fact it got left out. :)

By the way Blitzen just to add, she owns the stud dog and is the one that had him tested for DM, and did not feel the need to test her females as she is selling with limited registration and will only ever breed with one parent that is N/N.