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by VomHKINC on 31 January 2012 - 15:01

My year old GSD constantly has her nose on the ground...vet just called and said the stool sample contained eimeria, and that there is nothing that can be done as it goes away on its own.  Basically he suggested a basket muzzle when out in our yard to keep her from picking up things.  He said mostly it's from rabbit faces, moreso squirrel or the myriad of wild cats running around and using my back yard as a kittey pan.  In any event, he said not to worry as it will run its course, and she'll eliminate it.  Is the vet correct?  I have all my dogs on DE and are wormed monthly but he said that would not have helped any way.  Comments suggestions welcome.

hunger4justice

by hunger4justice on 31 January 2012 - 15:01

Isn't that the one that causes coccidia?

Ediited to add this from Merck Vet Manual:
Coccidiosis is a usually acute invasion and destruction of intestinal mucosa by protozoa of the genera Eimeria or Isospora . Infection is characterized by diarrhea, fever, inappetence, weight loss, emaciation, and sometimes death. Coccidiosis is a serious disease in cattle, sheep, goats, pigs, poultry ( Coccidiosis: Introduction), and also rabbits, in which the liver as well as the intestine can be affected ( Coccidiosis). In dogs, cats, and horses, it is less often diagnosed but can result in clinical illness. Other genera, of both hosts and protozoa, can be involved (see cryptosporidiosis, Cryptosporidiosis, sarcocystosis, Sarcocystosis: Introduction, and toxoplasmosis, Toxoplasmosis: Introduction).
Etiology and Epidemiology:
Eimeria and Isospora typically require only one host in which to complete their life cycles. Some species of Isospora have facultative intermediate (paratenic or transfer) hosts. A new genus name, Cystoisospora , has been proposed but has not gained wide acceptance. Coccidia are host-specific, and there is no cross-immunity between species of coccidia.
BUT THEN IN ANOTHER SECTION of the manual IT SAYS:

Neither dogs nor cats have Eimeria .

So is that why they say it doesn't do anything to the dog?   Because dog Coccidia is caused by a different pathogen?  Does that mean Eimera is totally harmless to dogs?  If so, then why bother with a muzzle or anything.  That is the part I can't understand.

by VomHKINC on 31 January 2012 - 15:01

I think the same as you...why bother with a basket muzzle if not transferrable?  Not sure...I thought Albon, sulphur drug, would be the treatment (although I'm not a fan of it as with long term use can cause dry eye), but he said no...similar, but not the same...supposedly passes through.  I think he meant that if any of my other dogs licked her (perhaps), but she is the only one that will eat things and run away with them.  But I agree with you...seem's like the answers are from two opposite sides of the spectrum.  I'll have to ask him again, but I now just read that an over abundance of cats, eating outside, can bring extra squirrels and mice to the area, which now points to more of an environmental issue.  I just through this, called the board of health, and they've told me that the neighbours, although trying to "clean up the world," are not committing any type of crime...the crime would be if they were tossing food out without bowels.

I just happened to look behind our garage and the neighbour behind me now has put kitty litter back there for them, however, they are not using it.  To me it's disgusting, so this is more of a health issue for the area, even though they keep telling me no one is committing a crime.   I'll have to do a little more research on this one.  Confusing.

by SitasMom on 31 January 2012 - 17:01


cats are common carriers of toxoplasmosis, if your dog eats the cat poop from the litter it could be an issue.......


http://pets.webmd.com/dogs/dog-protozoan-diseases






by VomHKINC on 31 January 2012 - 18:01

I thought of this too...hum...(thinking)...weakness is a sign.  I'm going to let him look at her a little later, as the stool was negative for Giardias, Coccidia no, but I think I'll have him retest the stool again...they go out to the lab and if done today, we can take a look.

I don't have cats...the only cats are the ones that enter the yard, even with proper fencing and barricading the under part, they are still getting in.  It's not safe, so I stopped bringing the dogs back there.  I had to redo the yard, dig up a foot of dirt, bleach and replace and reseed.  However, still an ongoing problem.  

Thank you!





 


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