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by Bravo1N on 23 January 2012 - 20:01
Can anyone provide some more information about this beautiful dog ? His ZW? Is he an a-normal or a- fast normal? Why would it be a-fast normal when he is athis age?
How are his drives? Can't tell much from the videos on youtube of him during the BSZS 2010 and 2011. Hopefuly someone who knows or seen him would respond.
How are his drives? Can't tell much from the videos on youtube of him during the BSZS 2010 and 2011. Hopefuly someone who knows or seen him would respond.
by trixx on 23 January 2012 - 20:01
i dont know this dog but i can tell you his ZW-92, he more than likely had his hips cert. A2 around 12 months or so. i did take alook at his video and he does average bite work for a showline, i did not like his roach back its too roach for my liking. hopefully some one will come on here that knows Ober.
by Bravo1N on 24 January 2012 - 00:01
Thank you so much for your input. I know the lower thw zw, the better (the closer to the 70's, the better) Is 92 a terrible number? what would this mean for this dogs progeny?
by Rik on 24 January 2012 - 01:01
Google is your friend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOg8NN4AXM8 Ober is # 8 dog on this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pliVxRtijR8
best,
Rik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOg8NN4AXM8 Ober is # 8 dog on this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pliVxRtijR8
best,
Rik
by trixx on 24 January 2012 - 04:01
Rik, i watched the first link from you tube and there was a fantasic male that did excellent on the long bite , now thats what i wish all show lines were like.V10 ballack 1132 , he is the last one on the video.
Bravo,
now the SV alouds you to do a breeding of a total of ZW- 200 for the 2 dogs together , the average Zw is 100, so anything under that is exceptable. yes the lower the Zw the better.
i would also find out what kind of hips Ober is producing on his offspring , i think that will give you a good idea , if you are undecided. talk with Ober owner for more information.
Bravo,
now the SV alouds you to do a breeding of a total of ZW- 200 for the 2 dogs together , the average Zw is 100, so anything under that is exceptable. yes the lower the Zw the better.
i would also find out what kind of hips Ober is producing on his offspring , i think that will give you a good idea , if you are undecided. talk with Ober owner for more information.
by sunshine on 24 January 2012 - 05:01
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by SitasMom on 24 January 2012 - 16:01
by Bravo1N on 29 January 2012 - 06:01
Thank you all for the links. Im still wondering if there is anyone out there that knows this dog first hand or seen him work in real life rather than on some video.
by Gil Blu on 30 January 2012 - 13:01
Dear Bravo1N
Are you in Argentina that´s right ? Because I know Ober is now in Argentina...
A good ZW is bellow 100, and the smaller ZW the better for breeding..
I like Ober. I have a daughter of him, called Romy vom Hirschmorgen. Romy was in 3 shows in Brazil and made 2nd place (6 bitches in the Ring), 6th place in Brazilian Siegershow (27 bitches in the ring) and 3rd place in Sao PAulo last week (8 bitches in the ring) with a german SV judge.
Her temperament is absolutely FANTASTIC !!!
Are you in Argentina that´s right ? Because I know Ober is now in Argentina...
A good ZW is bellow 100, and the smaller ZW the better for breeding..
I like Ober. I have a daughter of him, called Romy vom Hirschmorgen. Romy was in 3 shows in Brazil and made 2nd place (6 bitches in the Ring), 6th place in Brazilian Siegershow (27 bitches in the ring) and 3rd place in Sao PAulo last week (8 bitches in the ring) with a german SV judge.
Her temperament is absolutely FANTASTIC !!!
by Gil Blu on 30 January 2012 - 13:01
One more thing....I mad her pre-Xray and Hips are normal...She is 10 monthes old...
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