Hips and elbows - give your opinions! - Page 2

You don't have to be confrontational. Tell them that the films were refused. Easy as that. Go ahead and roll your eyes if you have to and act like it's a big inconvenience and you're really sorry, if you must. ;-)  Think of it this way; you bought these xrays and this service. A lot is riding on them. It's well within your rights to ask for a proper film.

Can I ask why you wanted them on film and not digital?

SV requires film so if I get them done on film I can just send them off right away (have all the other papers ready) rather than have to get them transfered from digital to film.  Also I'd rather have the same people do them right and hopefully not have to pay.  If I switch clinics again, I'll have to pay again.  It would seem in their best interest as well to learn how to position a dog since so many people do OFAs now and it's the same.  I've had lots of people ask me where to go in town for good OFAs so whoever does it good gets lots of recommendations from various breed fanciers.

Best guess - OFA good to excellent. SV A1.  Over half the ball is seated in the socket, the balls are round and there is no evidence whatsoever of remodeling. The norberg angle is right.  IMO another xray with the knees rotated inwardly  and the femurs parallel is not going to make much, if any difference at all.

Really?  That certainly balances out the opinions.  Well, if they won't re-do the hips for no charge, I'm sending these in.  Not going to spend any more money considering whatever they end up being rated, they are still breedable/passable, right?  I like getting the opinions on this forum because based on my passed dogs they seem to err on the side of the lower rating, so it's nice to not be surprised or be pleasantly surprised.

They're good hips. If you're just doing SV, I think they're fine. I don't trust OFA one little bit. IME, they have to be PERFECT for OFA to assess them accurately. 

That's my opinion and I'm sticking with it LOL. I honestly don't see any reason for concern, but I've been wrong before (in 2007). All I can say is if this were my dog I'd not rexray him, but it's your decision.

Elbows? Beats me.
 

I agree with you. They're clean, round, and tight. But- how many xrays have we seen here that were good to fair and OFA said mild or something else due to positioning? The claims are that it's "not their job" to picture what they would look positioned properly. I don't have any experience w/SV and the new protocol, but I would think it's better than OFA and these will pass. But if she can get better ones, I don't think it would hurt. 

Maybe not quite perfect for OFA to assess.  I have a dog that is assymetrical, he has extra vertebra and those spines that poke out, one side has them and one side doesn't plus the vertebra are attached to the pelvis wrong (at the sacro-illiac part I think it's called) so the entire picture of his pelvic structures is sort of lop-sided. Short of breaking off bones and spurs he is physically impossible to position perfectly, and he got OFA good with films that people here said would not be accepted.  Maybe if he *could* be positioned perfectly he'd be OFA Excellent?  Who knows but I'm happy with OFA Good!  However I'm not breeding him b/c of the other condition.  I might breed survey him though since USCA accepts the OFAs.

Fair, good, excellent, all normal for breed and age.