Misleading ad - Page 1

There is a dog that I purchased directly from the breeder in Czech.  There is a  broker that has the dog advertised on his web site and sold banner across it, even though he never saw this dog.  

Does this make you think that he the broker actually sold this dog?
Does it make you think that he has  or had the dog in his kennel?
Can this be considered a misleading ad?


Would love to know your thoughts

Was the seller advertising the dog for sale before you bought it? If so, and it was to be a brokered deal, like so many import dogs I see are, then to me, putting a "sold" banner over the dog is just a quick and easy way to tell people that dog isn't available, so don't call about him.  I wouldn't expect that a broker necessarily ever saw the dog, let alone had it in his/her kennel. I guess if you are brand new to dogs, you might assume a broker/breeder would own all those dogs (I got a phone call to that effect this week...pretty funny to be accused of "using" a dog for stud that I didn't own! LOL) but even someone a tiny bit seasoned would know not to assume any dog is on any certain property without asking.

I used a "broker" once and he never saw my dog. 

Why? What's the issue? 

I remember seeing Lobos listed for sale he is a really nice looking dog. How do you like him?
My female I purchased through Jinopo is also listed as sold on Alphine's site. Since they are partners I don't find this misleading.
But I was surprised to see my dog lisited there months after she was purchased listed as sold. Maybe they do this because some people only check on Alphine's site so they have to keep them up to date on the dogs that got sold ???

I think the issue is that the dog was bought directly and the broker was never used and never had the dog.  If I remember the situation correctly, Frank has asked that the dog be removed from the website since the broker did not sell the dog or have the dog.  The details are on a thread on the PDB, the broker then said the dog was not breeding quality and only good to breed to Franks' dogs and not outside females???????   Which is very bizarre to me, as the dog was being sold as a "stud" dog on the brokers website, until Frank bought the dog direct with out the broker, then the "quality" of the dog diminished according to the broker.

I'm sure they can provide more details or you can find the other thread.

Ah. I didn't look at who posted it, I only read the post. Nevermind.

Jenni,
That is the first thing you check.  You should know better.

Didn't put this up to slam Hans.I think we all know well enough about their practices. There are also other brokers who post dogs to their web site that they do not own, never saw or tested, yet advertise what great dogs they are. How does the novice person know that the dealer is selling something they know nothing of? What steps can be taken so that the novice can distinguish between who is honestly selling a dog they have in their kennel and a broker who is just listing other dogs they know nothing about. This question is for those of you who have imported more than one or 2 dogs and are continuing to seek reputable brokers/breeders. Not just the one dog owner who breeds once a year and is not selling police or sport dogs. 

Again this is not to slam Hans.

I think it's typical of hans' shady business practices. Just like when he put a stud dog, which jiri sold, up on his(hans') site under the heading alpinek9 current studs and " our dogs" immediately after jiri removed the dog from his own site. Hans never used the stud or owned it and has a note stating "this dog is no longer in our possession anymore ", the dog NEVER EVER was in his possession. He just has a problem with being truthful. Another questionable practice of his is having dogs' import papers sent to him so that he(Hans) can make copies. Why should Hans need copies of a dog's import papers when he doesn't own it or did not buy it?????? That's all that's needed to send for AKC registration, and it could be a little more than disconcerting knowing that anyone else has access to your dog's import documents.

CP,
Ar is an awsome dog. He really likes to work and has great character. Just an all around nice dog and I'm happy to have him. 

Sometimes I don't look. I don't think that's a bad thing, either. It makes you less likely to be biased when answering. ;-)

But I don't think I'm allowed to participate any longer anyhow, as Frank specifically stated that this question is only for people who import dogs regularly and are continuing to seek reputable brokers, which I am not. I have what I need and don't have an immediate need to go outside what I already have access to. So, I don't qualify, even if I meet the other half of the criteria. 

I don't understand why someone must import large quantities to have an opinion on this, but it's his thread, not mine.