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by Videx on 27 November 2011 - 17:11
The SV "Zuchtschauordnung" are The SV "Pedigree Show Regulations"
also referred to as the SV "Breed Show Regulations" or the SV "Conformation Show Regulations"
http://www.videxgsd.com/zuchtschauordnung_regs.htm
by Jantie on 28 November 2011 - 18:11
Don't forget to read how people successfully violate the SV "Breed Show Regulations" or the SV "Conformation Show Regulations" on my Weblog:
http://www.bloggen.be/hd
for example:
manipulations with stud dog paperwork
manipulation of HD and ED-records
sales contracts in which a placement for the coming Sieger Show is promissed, etc., etc.
Read all about it on my wbelog, you're welcome!
Have you noticed at all that 2 2011 VA's were way too big?
Regulations will accept 65 cm, two VA's were over 68...
Who needs regulations David?
by Mackenzie on 29 November 2011 - 11:11
As far as I am aware the “Zuchtschauordnung” does not specifically say that a judge must award VA even if the animal is graded “noch zugelassen”. This must be left open ended if a judge wishes to influence the betterment of a serious fault in a working breed and, therefore, as judging is an opinion based on one persons thoughts on an animal the judge is entitled to withhold an award if they so wish. If the dysplasia aspect is to be resolved within the breed generally to improve the breed then judges should be allowed to give, or, withhold an award if they so wish as their contribution to making such a scheme successful.
I can commiserate with Sue Belfield because Renata is a superbly constructed female. However, when we consider the status of a VA animal, male or female, then surely we should expect the dog to be as near perfect as is reasonably possible. The hips schemes were introduced at a time when the status of these joints were more problematical than today. If we bear this in mind it should borne in mind that it was with reluctance that the “noch zugelassen” status was introduced because at that time hips status was so poor but they had to allow breeders to continue breeding with affected animals in an attempt to breed the problem out in what would otherwise be a very restricted gene pool. The argument that animals rated “noch zugelassen” have produced improved hips in their progeny does not really hold water. We never get to know the ratings of all the sibs in a litter and further we have to consider the status of the partner in the mating whose contribution may be greater than the dysplastic animal. Another consideration is that the dog must have transmissible characteristics which will be beneficial to improve the breed as a whole and not use the “noch zugelassen” as just a passport to have the next litter.
What are the conclusions of the evidence of improvement in hips and elbows after so many x-ray examinations when in a recent publication about the best producers of hips covered only males and ignored the contribution of females coupled with the fact that of nearly all of the males listed had only between 40/60% of their offspring x-rayed and scored.
Another interesting point is that the rules as set out in Germany does not necessarily apply elsewhere. The judge is right in his critique when he says “I could make it easy VA to the winner of this class [Kassieger Renata] for she has perfect construction and mental qualities, but the breed in the United Kingdom is going the right way and looking for a healthy dog, therefore as the elbow rating of this dog is not sufficient I will not give VA to this dog, even if the owner is not happy about it, but the health should be perfect.”
I agree with the judge but I hope that Sue is successful in Renata’s breeding programme in producing the qualities that she has and with improvement in the elbows.
Mackenzie
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