Tell me about how this SV Rating works - Page 1

So, I was, shockingly, able to finish my bitch in UKC and am toying with the idea of presenting her in a german style show for a rating.  Ok, totally clueless here.

She is a puppy (6 months).

Here are my questions:

What are the ratings? I know V and SG. Is anything less than SG not suitable for breeding.

At what age do they give out real ratings like SG and not the puppy ratings?

At what age is she required to have some sort of working title to get a rating? Will a BH count or only ScH titles?

If she gets a rating when she doesn't have a working title does it still stay with her or does it become irrelevant?

If by some miracle, we try and obtain a ScH title will the rating she received before she was titled count as her cnformation thing for a breed survey?

Thank you!!!

Sara

This webpage should answer most of your questions:
http://germanshepherddog.com/regulations/guidelines_for_hosting_a_conformation_show.htm

Here are my questions:

What are the ratings? I know V and SG. Is anything less than SG not suitable for breeding. G (for Good) is also suitable for breeding.

At what age do they give out real ratings like SG and not the puppy ratings? 12 months and older!

At what age is she required to have some sort of working title to get a rating? Will a BH count or only ScH titles? 24 months and older! BH is not a title, only a prerequisite for a SchH1. Titles are: HGH or SchH1/IP1 or higher!

If she gets a rating when she doesn't have a working title does it still stay with her or does it become irrelevant? The highest rating (SG or G) will stay, provided it is between 12 and 23 months of age! The so-called "Adult Untitled" classes for 24 months and older without a title do not count

If by some miracle, we try and obtain a ScH title will the rating she received before she was titled count as her cnformation thing for a breed survey? Again, as long as the rating was received between 12 and 23 months of age (Youth and/or Young Dog Class), it will count for a breed survey. A V-rating (this rating is only for titled dogs) could also be obtained and counted toward the breed survey, if the dog was titled and then shown in the working class by 30 months of age.

Thank you both!

Mfh- I will check out the link!

Silbersee-Perfect and exactly what I was looking for!

Thanks,
Sara

I forgot to ask one thing.....can I still get a german show rating on my bitch if I am a member of the GSDCA? I remember  being told, previously, I can't join a ScH club if I am a GSDCA member.

Anyone??

Can one get a show rating if they are members of the GSDCA?

You could go to an SV conformation show held by the WDA (which is affiliated with GSDCA).  Here is a list of events:
http://www.gsdca-wda.org/wda_new/EVENTS.html

USA also holds conformation shows (but sometimes the judges aren't SV certified I think).  But I believe you must be a member of USA to participate.  And I'm not sure if you can be a member of both USA and GSDCA/WDA.  Here is a list of events:
http://germanshepherddog.com/events/Club_Events.htm

This isn't my area of expertise, but hopefully it helps you a little.

Mfh, thanks for trying to help!  It's weird but it seems like I am on an island with my GSDCA membership and wanting to do SV stuff!!

I wonder if the WDA rating would actually be recognized in the regular SV world??

I also wonder if the WDA actually does breed surveys too that are recognized in the regular SV world?

I do remember being told that I could not be a member of United Schutzhund Club of America and the GSDCA.  I still don't understand why. :-(

Well, that's why everytime I even think of doing SV/ScH stuff I end up finding it all so confusing that I just move on........

If nobody knows here knows than I will have to try to find out.

I had called a WDA person before but found her answers confusing to me (this was about finding a ScH club). There were no WDA clubs in my area (even though they were listed on the WDA page but when I called they said they were not WDA affiliated-huh?). Then, the next closest two WDA club(that were actually affiliated) were closed to outside members. So, there you have it!

Oh, well. Maybe I should just stick with regular showing/AKC performance and not try the SV/ScH stuff. 

Happy Thanksgiving to all,

Sara

Don't know if someone mentioned it as well, but a dog also cannot cannot a V rating over aged 3 1/2 if it hasn't been breed surveyed.   So also a window there as well.   

A show rating received from 12 to 24 months of G or better will "stick" for a breed survey, if that makes sense.    Otherwise the dog needs to be shown in the working class for the show rating in order to be breed surveyed.

Smiley, if you get a BH/SchH/AD titles by an SV judge (it will usually say on the WDA or USA event page through whom the judge is certified) then the title will be recognized by USA, WDA, and SV organizations and transferable.  For example, if I do a BH in a WDA trial by a SV judge, the BH is transferable to USA and they will recognize the title.  Then I can go to a USA trial and obtain a SchH1.  If the SchH1 was under an SV judge, then I can enter the dog in a WDA conformation show in the working class.  If the SchH1 at a USA trial is not by an SV judge, I can only enter the working class at USA conformation shows because WDA wont recognize the non-SV judge SchH1.

So you can do SV recognized titles, show ratings, and breed surveys in WDA (and USA) if the judge is SV certified.

Even if you get titles and show ratings in USA and WDA by non SV judges, they are still considered "legit" in the United States.  The only thing you couldn't do is take your dog to Germany and have the titles recognized.