Should I,or should I not. - Page 1

Should I open a can of worms about one of the working dog breeders on this board.?
Then again if I do that, Id be in the same leaque as you bible bashers,so I will not reveale their name.  Pup bought at 4 months old,at a year old no left hip socket 2000 dollars vet bills in this pup. They did replace pup.A year later bad hips,bad elbows.
The stud to these pups still being advertized for stud service.  I guess the moto here is
  you dont need hips and elbows to bite.  The working line dogs in our area are plaqued with bad elbows and over bites,but they can bite and are high drive,that is really what counts, eh.

Oh by the way this breeder lives in the U.S.A.

  Come on all you working dog people, show your score books,show us how good your dogs realy are.

  gouda

 I should have mentioned,I did not buy this pup,a member of our club did.

   gouda

I really didn't want to post on here, it really isn't worth my time. But, for the sake of potential puppies, it'd be in everyone's best interest if you at least post the name of the stud so this doesn't occur in the future. 
As for your facile and callow mindset toward everyone on the board..I leave that for maturity or reality to set in for you, whichever comes first.

We expose the SL breeders, it is only fair to do the same to the WL, however, did this breeder stand behind his dog?  I imagine every breeder runs into a time where one pup has issues, it is how the breeder handles it that matters.

Sorry, just reread it, and you said they did replace the pup, but the replacement had bad hips too?  Yikes.

Not to start another crazy arguement on this forum or anything but I really think you should give a name to protect other people from going through that heartache and financial hit. Maybe if the breeder is exposed they will stop breeding pups with a high risk of HD.

The meaning and point of your last line escapes me.

Why talk about it; just do it, or don't do it. Simple. Tell us who it is and what dog, or don't post about it.

 

Did the replace puppy come from the same stud as the first?

I smell an attempt to try to get folks' attention away from what his buddy Shtal did.  So either put up or shut up.

hahaha the meaning of this whole thing escapes me!!!!!

Why would you assume the stud is responsible for throwing the bad hip?  What about the dam?  How are the hips of any other progeny of either the sire or dam?  How about in the pedigree?  How about the sisters and brothers of the sire and dam?  How are their hips?  I figure you must have checked all this out since you are so sure the sire is 100% to blame and needs to be altered and not bred ever again. 

Nobody ever said working line dogs never have bad hips.

WTF does a dogs scorebook have to do with your topic ? (hips...I think is your topic).

WTF do bible thumpers have to do with naming a breeder?

Everyone knows it's not about the guarantee - it's NEVER about the guarantee. It's about a concientious breeder, whether show or working line.  A good breeder will work with you, a bad breeder has nothing better to give you, just more shit. 

Personally I don't think you have a clue about the working line breeders or any first hand knowledge about the dogs they produce - in your area or otherwise. 

By the way, "plaque" is tarter build up, pretty sure no there's no evidence connecting plaque to bad elbows or over bites, but if you've heard otherwise......

Yeah you're probably right, DD, this is just a feeble attempt to redirect.

Carry on.

Hi Don,  Dont rely on your smeller,because you have no decernment about anything.
Your only friends here are all bible bashers.  Sthals dog certainly is not breeding materia,but neither is 70 percent of the working lines.  Now all you Sthal bashers please show us your score books on your dogs.Have any of you qualified for the nationals,or the world?, if not you,s are certainly better bible bashers then dog trainers.
Looking forward to your scores.  I might be going to a trial the second week of Nov. with my S.L. who is 7/8 german,1/8 american.Good or bad I will post his results.

  gouda