Switching to raw - Page 1

Ok, I need your help. People who feed raw have you ever heard of a dog getting diarrhea (and I mean liquid) from eating RMB?
I have a 14 month old male who just cant seem to make the switch. All my dogs are on raw and I've never had such a problem. I've tried everything I can think of. He currently eats Orijen and homecooked diet.
I tried switching him over cold turkey. This didnt work as he got diarrhea. I tried sticking to one protein at first, this didnt work. So I tried sticking to one protein of different proteins thinking maybe he was allergic... this didnt work.
So I tried yogurt, pumpkin, and he ALWAYS gets probiotics (primal defense). He has been to the vet and has a clean bill of health. Negative fecal, fecal sent out, bloodwork, etc.

Now this is the weird part, He CAN tolerate just meat. Say turkey chunks, ground rabbit plain, etc. When I add bone (turkey drumstick, chicken leg quarter, chicken back, etc) he just explosive diarrhea. I can't seem to figure out what the issue is? I have also tried pre-made raw, that doesnt work either. Not to mention expensive.. lol.
I havent tried raw in about 3 months with him. I was giving him time to recover completely from raw trying and get some advice.
Can anyone offer some advice?
Thanks!
Erin

That is strange, sounds like you have covered all your bases. I have no idea but will be curious to see what others say. I have 4 on all raw with no problems. Take that back, my one 7 month old female gets the runs after a beef heart, her sister has no problems with it. Strange. Good Luck

sorry to go into gross details here...

if your dog has liquid poo first, and then some semi-formed poo at the end, i would say you're probably feeding too much at one time.  or too much bone at one time.  the liquid poo at this time means "hey, too much, system overload!"

if however your dog has liquid poo, and nothing but liquid poo, i would say that there is too much fat or fat/cartilage on the bone for him to digest.  or that he has not built up a tolerance to it yet.

if you don't mind going into detail (i know it can be a pain in the butt), does he have diarrhea after ground bone or whole bones?  also, how much are you feeding him per meal with bone, when he has diarrhea?  and what brands of premade raw have you tried? 

does he get diarrhea after eating any other specific type of boneless meat?

I am interested in what you all feed and how. At the time i am feeding 1-1 1/2 lbs of raw beef 1 egg and 1 to 2 cups of diamond dog food to each dog. i want to improve but I am not going to the farmers market twice a week to do it.

one of my dog's belly had difficulty in adjusting its internal system for raw food it took about 3 months time  with often diarrhea.

there are several ways to start dogs on raw either a quick step , or 3-step system, or the methods are best suited for dogs where

I have fed raw for about 6 -7 years but started with a new method which is based on how a predator gastrointestinal system is structured and work best

they are now being fed 3 times a week sometimes only 2 times a week, which function much better than to feed 6 times a

thanks everyone.
I've switched every other dog over "cold turkey" no problem.
I do not mind getting "dirty". HAHA. We are talking about my dogs bowel movements. yikes!

Anyways, I originally switched over using turkey chunks, plain chunks of meat. He did fine for 2 feedings. I was giving 3 feedings at the time because he was about 6 months. Then I added 2 chicken back the 3 feeding. He didnt chew them up well as he was just learning. So the next day he had diarrhea. I assumed from the backs.
I gave all the extra pumpkin, etc. (oh, I had been giving probiotics since he was a pup, I always have my dogs on a probiotic) His diarrhea cleared up in a few days so I tried again.
This time I gave chicken leg quarter, just one. Then kibble for mid day feeding. Then he had diarrhea again. Chicken leg quarters do not have a ton of fat on them. So I was getting confused.

So I tried JUST giving him meat with his kibble. This works. I can give just ground beef, or turkey chunks, or whatever raw as long as no bone. No diarrhea.
When he gets diarrhea it stays runny for at least 2 days but the first few times he had diarrhea he couldnt hold it. So I don't like to wait it out and see how much longer until normal poops. So I shove pumpkin down his throat and it works.
Also pre-ground bone I have tried only in the mixes. The pre-made mixes I used were Primal and G&C.
I hope I answered everyones questions.
I'll be back on this evening to discuss more.
Thanks everything, I'd really like to get this boy on raw!

Good Morning,
If he was 6 months when you tried first time, 3 months of growing up make a world of a difference..he is more developed now,  his system should be in better shape...Also, just a suggestion if he has hard time digesting, try giving him digestive enzymes, it will help him to break down his food especially if he does not chew it well, also with this heat try giving him frozen raw meat it will slow him down...also, most people say give them 24 hours of no food prior to switching to raw...

why give the dogs kibble I just don't understand why people want to put this stuff in their dogs
nasty stuff