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The WDA harbors no scorebook prejudices.   UScA Scorebooks are recognized by the WDA, and UScA members are welcomed (without prejudice) to participate in WDA SchH trials at the club and regional levels. (National and WUSV qualifying events, however, have specific membership stipulations).

Thanks to a new policy, recently adopted by the WDA and the GSDCA, all WDA issued scorebooks enjoy the joint endorsement of the GSDCA. Newly issued scorebooks from the WDA office carry the joint WDA and GSDCA logos.  Anyone with a currently valid WDA scorebook may obtain a free replacement, dually issued (WDA and GSDCA) scorebook cover simply by contacting the WDA office. 

To be clear, the full validity (for UScA purposes only) of these jointly issued WDA and GSDCA scorebooks, depends upon the individual owner or co-owner's or handler's membership situation.   (At least as I currently understand UScA policies.)

Any owner/co-owner/handler who is either a GSDCA or an SV member (that is, a WUSV Member Club member), who possesses a jointly issued WDA & GSDCA scorebook for a particular dog, may not be refused entry into any UScA trial event.

Gayle Kirkwood
WDA Secretary

Questions and/or UScA official clarifications welcome!  412-480-7307.

I am looking the UScA website and directly on their application here is what it says,

"USA CERTIFICATION OF FOREIGN or NON USA SCOREBOOKS
Scorebooks issued by other clubs, SV, DVG, ADRK, etc. (with the exception of scorebooks issued by the German Shepherd Dog Club of America, WDA) can be USA-certified by sending the original scorebook, a copy of the dog’s registration papers and a copy of your current membership card to the USA Office. The appropriate fee(s) are as follows: if
you are a current USA member, the cost would be $10.00. If you are a non-member, the fee would be $40.00." 

So there is discrimination.  What does the SV or WUSV think about this?  Is this supported?

The SV doesn't care. It only cares about recognition of its judges.

I just trialed two weekends ago and STILL don't have this sorted out, lol!  I am now a USCA member and my dog has both scorebooks (well the USCA one is the AWDF one since he's purebred GSD).  I entered a USCA trial, but his previous entry was in the WDA scorebook at a WDA trial (SV judge).  I photocopied that page and stuck it in my USCA book.  Didn't have any problems trialing.  Not sure if I can do the same, photocopy THAT new title from the USCA book and stick it in my WDA book and trial at the next level?  The USCA trial was under a USCA judge, not SV.

PS.  Gayle can we get this new WDA scorebook replacement if we are no longer a WDA member?  My WDA scorebook is from 2009.

GSDCA-WDA will accept the title.  Does not matter, you do not need to photocopy it.  You appeared to have said the magic words "SV" judge.  Not sure why you would want 2 scorebooks.  In all honesty it should not matter.  IMO as long as you have a scorebook you should be able to trial anywhere.  From a finiancial standpoint it would be more advantageaus for UScA to accept the GSDCA-WDA books and allow them to be "certified."  

So I wonder if the WUSV cares?  Since both organizations are members of the WUSV. 

Do we as schutzhunders support this?  How does this add anything positive to the sport?    

Hedi I needed two because I was told the USCA would not accept the WDA scorebook (but would accept the title since it was issued by an SV judge).  The dog started out in WDA.  I was a WDA member and got his scorebook when I sent everything in at 8 weeks figuring I'd just do it all at once.  So he started with a WDA trial.  Then he did a trial for SDA tracking, obedience, and protection and they record their titles in the AWDF scorebook so I got the USCA/AWDF book.  Then we entered a Schutzhund trial this month and it was a USCA trial and I was told to copy the WDA results and stick it in the USCA book so that's what I did.

I don't support this but what can I do about it?  All I want is to train and trial my dog.  Every time what seems like a simply entry becomes a process of obtaining this book or this verification or "certifying" this or that.  Good grief!

I was amazed when I inquired about showing my dog in the Canadian Sieger show, all they needed was my entry fee and a copy of the AKC paper.  No "certified pedigree", no tattoo verifications, no additional memberships or registries.

VKGSDs,
Wow that stinks.  I am sorry to hear of the troubles you had with this.  That just plain old sucks.  

Maybe if enough schutzhunders expressed dissatisfaction with this...something would change?  I feel the same way you do...all I want is to train and trial.  There are great people who are members of either organization with nice dogs.  Okay, you do not want someone to be members of both....great, okay.  The prohibition and discrimination of titles and scorebooks is a little "old school."  It is a shame.  I will continue to not like or understand the rationale behind this.   

While I can not speak for UScA, I would personally find it distasteful to accept a "working dog" scorebook from an organization (GSDCA) who neither advocates nor requires standards for breeding the German Shepherd Dog other than pure bred. No temperament, health, conformation, breed survey, or titles needed and the result to which the overwhelming majority of their members aspire is the American Showline. Kevin Nance

BTW, I have many, many friends within WDA with whom I share common values regarding the preservation of the German Shepherd Dog's working heritage. GSDCA does not share that priority but merely "allows" it within the minority ranks of WDA. Kevin Nance

Kevin, sounds like you agree with UScA's policy of discrimination regarding scorebooks, since as posted above, these new scorebooks are jointly issued.  I personally know of some UScA members who breed dogs with no titles, no breed survery, or temprament testing.  How does that happen?  In the US as long as it is "pure bred" you can reproduce it and get issued a pedigree.  Does that mean that UScA supports this as well? They do not outwardly state they do....but what/who is there to stop them from breeding these dogs?  The pedigree gets issued and these dogs get sold.  Distaste is in the eye of the beholder and the practices of the people. Anyway, off topic....I will continue to schutzhund/IPO or whatever "they" call it and continue to be baffled by all the scorebook dilemmas in this country.