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by jock on 23 September 2006 - 16:09

Aldo perhaps the dog DID NOT meet the requirements,were the papers in order,I know that the pups you are trying to sell to the UK could not travel without having to go into quarrantine,check out the UK Pet Passport Regulations,microchip/shots at 3months, titre test 1 month later,then the pasport issued 6 months after that, THE PUPS YOU ARE ADVERTISING DO NOT QUALIFY,the pups would have to be a min.10 months to get entry into the UK,

by Assinhala on 23 September 2006 - 16:09

Most of you guys sound like a bunch of sharks anyhow. I would not dare buy a dog from you all. You all sound like you have dollar signs in front of your eyes, in it for the money, make a buck before you make a good dog.

by jdh on 23 September 2006 - 16:09

Actually Assinhala, To their credit I believe that if most of these people were sharks they would be talking fast and smooth and making every sale at whatever price rather than expressing frustration over losing a sale after going to some effort.

Oskar1

by Oskar1 on 23 September 2006 - 16:09

Hi Assinhala, nice that you joined the database this September. What exactly triggerd you saying that i am a shark ? As far as i can tell, nobody has been rude to you or made any bad comments about you or your doings. Selling the pups that is just one aspect out of many, as well as dealing with puppy buyers. I can only speak for me, yup, it would be nice to make a Buck or two ..... but since i only breed on a small scale, and the new kennel was that expensive, not to talk about my female, and yeah i forgott, the trailer has to be payed for too, darn still have to pay for the vet..... i guess before i will ship clear, doing it the way iam doing it now...... all the expenses will be payed for in 2012 !! What a shark i am ...... Kind Regards Ulli Dresbach

by jock on 23 September 2006 - 16:09

ARE YOU INTERSETSTED IN IMPORTING A BEAUTIFUL ITALIAN FEMALE PUP TO THE UK? DONT WORRY ABOUT BUROCRACY...!!! ITALIAN 100% FEMALE PUPPS FOR SALE WITH IMPORTANT PEDIGREE. I CAN SEND PHOTOS. CAN YOU EXPLAIN PLEASE!!!!!!!! BUYERS BEWARE , lEGALLY THEY HAVE TO BE 10MONTHS OLD

by Assinhala on 23 September 2006 - 18:09

If you all have to rely on selling pups to pay for your hobby, maybe you should re-evaluate. OK, maybe it should help TOWARD vets fees, new trailer etc, but when selling pups becomes an act of desperacy to pay for these things......well, need I say more. Thats when you all start growing razor sharp teeth and crusing the shallow waters looking for innocent flesh to feast on.

by SGBH on 23 September 2006 - 18:09

Personally, I don't do deposits or try to lock people in with the option of loosing their deposit without getting anything for it, if they back out. Not saying that is wrong, whatever works for you, is just fine. I give the price up front. No partial payments, no deposits, no frills. If you can't afford to drop the CASH for the dog, then you don't need the dog. During our initial dialog, if I think you don't need to have a dog(you can pick up on this pretty quick), when asked for a price I throw out a figure like 5 or 6 thousand dollars for an 8 week old puppy. The party quickly says no and hangs up, end of story. I do this to make them think they are running the show, they are in charge of the sale, ect. Keeps your enemy list shorter, than telling people, "I don't want to put a dog in your stuardship, because I don't think you are suitable." The money is second to me. I want a good one time placement with a family. Even with screening there is no guarentee, but I do all I can to ensure the family wants the dog, at all cost. I run a waiting list and if you stay on that list, waiting for a dog, I pretty much feel you will stay the course for the dog's lifetime. I don't even allow a breeding to occur until at least 7 people that I feel committed are on that list. When the breeding occurs, all the puppies have homes at conception, with excess people on the waitling list being rolled over for the NEXT litter. A couple people get off the waiting list for various reasons, but if they stay on the list, I feel better about making the placement. When it comes to money, I usually charge 1200 USD. This weeds out the crew that will tie a dog up on a chain in the back yard, and it gives REASONABLE expectations to those buying the dog. They don't pay 4 or 5 thousand USD for a dog and then turn around and expect to raise a Sieger, because of the price they paid for the dog. I weed out the time wasters, after they ask their few questions, by telling them I will now conduct my interview for placement that will occur over 3 or 4 phone conversations, and make my decision concerning placing them on the waiting list,when all those conversations have taken place. Just last week a gentlemen, when going through our phone intercourse shouted into the phone, "I don't have to go through this B**Sh** to buy a f&^%ing dog!" He immediatly hung up in my face. I was a happy camper and hopefully he will find the dog of his dreams in the near future, just not from me. Something else I stopped doing was importing dogs back for people. The Germans don't give me a warranty, yet the person buying here in the USA wants one. Can't do that anymore. It would be a matter of time before my name would be smeared across these boards as the lastest "monster" to be involved with the GSD. Without a doubt, from whelping to training to title/shows to breeding, the GSD is the most. It's when you put human beings into the equation, that dealing with GSDs start to suck. How ironic. Stephen

Oskar1

by Oskar1 on 23 September 2006 - 18:09

Dear Assinhala, you seem to work in the sycic field. There is no other explaination for me, as you constantly are able to read things that were not written !! Would you be so kind and explain to me why i am so desperate to sell my pups ? And just one more thing, what do you know about my financial situation, wait, maybe you want to donate ! Let me know, i'll set up an account ! Maybe i should keep them or give them away for free ! I wonder if you go around with other creatures like that..... how about the pigfarmer, he for sure is breeding his stock just out of love for the little pigletts........ or maybe he likes porkchops ! For crying out loud, all your comments made sofar on this board have just been negative. If that is all you have to say, you might as well keep it to yourself. Regards Ulli Dresbach

by K9-63 on 23 September 2006 - 18:09

Hello all! I must say that I myself started to get the label as a time waster or window shopper. From my experiences some of it was due to me not being patient in my search for a good dog. I wanted a dog so bad (even though I didn't have the money) an every dog I saw I would inquire about and hope that the dog would be in my price range. Needless to say that most were not in my range so I guess I wasted the breeders time. Well finally when I had enough money saved up to get the quality of dog that I was looking for It involved sending out e-mails about dogs that I saw on the net. Now if your going to spend a pretty penny then you don't just buy any ole dog. Maybe after seeing these dogs and sending e-mails there were reasons that the sale didn't get done, such as you didn't like the pedigree or a temperament issue or whatever. I think if a breeder or someone trying to make a sale lists enough information such as both parents, temperament, training etc, this will help people to decide if they even want to contact you about the dog to find out the price. I sometimes have to send an e-mail to someone just to ask who the parents are of this dog. When they respond and it's not what I want then that was time wasted I suppose. JDH has it right! No one wants to do business with inpatient, nasty or pushy people. As a breeder or someone trying to make a sale your reputation is all you have. Now being ripped off is a totally different situation. That's not a time waster, that's a thief! I think a non-refundable deposit (unless health issues) would eleminate people wasting time or backing out of deals.

by DIVER on 24 September 2006 - 08:09

If people did not Breed and sell puppies there surely would eventually be no puppies. Then there would be no Adult GSD's and then the Breed would become extinct. Another success for mankind! Yes there are some unscrupulous Breeders out there, hopefully these are greatly outnumbered by good responsible ones. The onus is on the good breeders to endeavour to sell pups to the right homes and people. And I believe that this is done. It certainly is in our case. I therefore believe that maybe you should put brain into gear before making more ridiculous statements, and probably use your time to search out the unscrupulous breeders and stop tarring us all with the same brush. If not i suggest you remove the last few letters from your name i.e.inhala. ASS should suffice.





 


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