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by Koach on 11 November 2010 - 18:11

 Seeking GSD with specific temperament

I had one many many years ago but cannot seem to find one now. She was an Enno von Antreftal daughter.

My needs:
Constant companion; canoe trips, mountain biking, wilderness hiking, etc.
House dog; live freely in the house, 10 acres of land (forest).
Will be doing serious Ringsport for accomplishments only and not for high scores.

Last October I purchased a pup (bitch) from top line West German sporting kennel. Dog will be euthanized Re: excitability threshold off the bottom of the charts. Dog cannot concentrate unless living in a vacuum. Barks at every cracking noise, phone rings, etc., greets people and animals with hair straight up on her back. Had proper socialization, etc.

Thanks in advance.

You can private email me at: nicodesb@gmail.com

LadyFrost

by LadyFrost on 11 November 2010 - 19:11

Koach...have you explored all possibilities with your current dog? Someone may be able to live with her... no need to euthanize her.... if there is no other way I will take her....I may not be the best trainer in the world but I have patients and time and space...

edit: Koach are you talking about Cassie the 9 month old you took with you on a trip and had wolf pack near by?....

FlashBang

by FlashBang on 11 November 2010 - 21:11

You're not looking for a "special temperament" nor "special temperament qualities."  You're looking for a German Shepherd with a sound and stable temperament that has a low to medium working drive.  A sound and stable German Shepherd Dog is what all German Shepherd Dogs should be.

I am sure you've already explored hiring a trainer for your dog, but have you considered donating your current dog to a working K-9 group? Local law enforcement, etc.?

What is "excessive excitability" to some is an "awesome drive" to others.  Of course, just reading something online and seeing something in person can also be two different things. 

Best of luck finding the dog you're looking for.  They're out there.

by Koach on 11 November 2010 - 21:11

 Thanks for replies so far.

I've loads of experience with dogs of many working and hunting duties. This is a genetic problem of nerves and threshold. Dog jumps out of it's skin at nothing. 
If this dog was "sharp" I would have had lawsuits by now. Dog's prey drive is sky high but her nervous system cannot handle it.  She goes into a "frenzy". 

Yes this is the Cassie I took on canoe trips.

GG

LadyFrost

by LadyFrost on 12 November 2010 - 13:11

Koach...she is a beautiful dog...I just hope you are not set in your decision, i have co workers in Emergency Management who use dogs for various state disasters and always looking for donated dogs to train, I am sure there are other options, people, trainers, who would love to have her...work with her...maybe change in climate and location will force her to adapt and alter....

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 12 November 2010 - 14:11


              Koach,,,,This is none of my business, but since you did post on a public forum I will tell you my opinion....Sounds like your girl has some issues and she is unsuitable for your needs...But, maybe Lady Frost is right, a change of environment and a different handler could make the difference for this dog...
  One persons trash is another person treasure.....Think about it.....Good luck...


              Deanna...: )

by Gustav on 12 November 2010 - 14:11

I agree with poster about you don't need a German Shepherd withspecial temperament, you just need a German Shepherd with good sound nerves and temperament. I had an Enno son many many years ago, the became a great dog for the Deleware State Police. I disagree with the poster that says donate to police department. Doesn't sound like the type of dog the academies are looking for in NJ.
There are some dogs that arise out of some of the working lines today that have more drive than nerve. Seen it to many times...but the temperament you seek you can find out there. I would suggest that you look for a good breeder of DDR dogs or Czech dogs. Though you can find an "Enno" type dogs in the other subsets, the Czech/DDR dogs tend to be the most like the dogs of 60,70s.JMO

FlashBang

by FlashBang on 12 November 2010 - 15:11

"I disagree with the poster that says donate to police department. Doesn't sound like the type of dog the academies are looking for in NJ."

Gustav, I only recommended that they speak to someone about possibly donating the dog.  As I said in my final line, it's hard to "see" what a dog truly is based on statements on the internet versus the dog in real life.  While I agree that departments are only looking for dogs of stable temperament, etc.  me not knowing the OP from Adam is why I posted the internet versus actual dog statement.  There are LEOs who have contacted persons in our area who have dogs that are definitely not what I would consider stable nor suitable for LEO work (bite history, bonkers, etc.) but they are donated them anyways to "see if they will work" and are euthanized if not. 

LadyFrost

by LadyFrost on 12 November 2010 - 15:11

I just don't think a dog should be euthanized when others are willing to try working with it...dogs adapt and can change, i think a calm household can alter her state of mind and since she is still young not all hope is lost...if she can't be donated than I am willing to take that chance, I hope Koach can meet me half way and either let me help him find someone to take her or let me take her whether its for permanent home or temporary till she finds her niche...

Ace952

by Ace952 on 12 November 2010 - 16:11

Yeah euthanize seems pretty harsh. People always say that puppies are a crap shoot. Hopefully you will get with Lady Frost to help the dog.





 


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