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Bear carlo

by Bear carlo on 15 July 2010 - 20:07

All,
    A quick dog food question. Has/does anyone used/use Nutro dog food for puppies large breed? If so would people care to share their results so I can make a decision if to switch my little monster over to it.

Thanks in advance for you repllies.

H

Myracle

by Myracle on 15 July 2010 - 21:07

Never fed it...
Here's whats in it, though:
Beef Meal, Ground Rice, Corn Gluten Meal, Rice Bran, Ground Whole Wheat, Wheat Flour, Poultry Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Dried Plain Beet Pulp, Natural Flavors, Soybean Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Sunflower Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols, a source of Vitamin E), Sodium Bicarbonate, Potassium Chloride, Salt, Dried Kelp, Vitamin E Supplement, Choline Chloride, Zinc Sulfate, Zinc Proteinate, Ferrous Sulfate, Iron Oxide, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of Vitamin C), Biotin, Manganese Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Niacin, Garlic Flavor, Potassium Iodide, L-Carnitine, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Copper Sulfate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin (source of Vitamin B2), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of Vitamin B6), Thiamine Mononitrate (source of Vitamin B1), Copper Proteinate, Sodium Selenite, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid.

Rice, corn and wheat aren't exactly what we expect to see a carnivorous dog eating.  Can cause allergies, and certainly not an ideal source of protein, unless you're raising... well heck, even cattle aren't supposed to eat corn.

Poultry fat in this context is believed by Purdue Vet School to contribute to bloat.  That's entirely hypothetical, since no one knows what causes bloat.  There seems to be some corrolation between fat as a kibble ingredient and bloat, but corrolation does not equal causation.

Beet pulp is controversial, but there's nothing pointing to a clear harm from feeding it.  There's no real benefit, either.  It mostly appears in kibbles to up the fiber content, and as a filler.

Sunflower Oil is loaded with Omega 6 fatty acids.  In and of itself, that's not a bad thing, provided you supplement with an equal amount of Omega 3s to get the balance appropriate for health.  Omega 6 causes inflammation [which is good, its part of the healing process].  Omega 3 suppresses inflammation.  You need a balance of both for health, especially in a breed known for joint problems.  The beef meal listed as the first ingredient is also loaded with Omega 6 and devoid of Omega 3, so supplementing with Omega 3s would be a good idea with this food.


by Gemini on 15 July 2010 - 21:07

I was actually looking this food over with a rep from the company this past weekend. Thanx for the question and thanx for the answer. Very good points you brought up to consider. You do have to be aware of the ingredients these days before feeding your dog some of the junk out on the market.


Doberdoodle

by Doberdoodle on 16 July 2010 - 02:07

Nutro is junk and I don't trust their company one bit, several pets DIED from eating Nutro in the pet food recall of 2007, and during that time I spoke with several pet owners whose cats and dogs had been killed, kidney failure, Nutro was using Menu Foods to make their products, it was very sad.

There are many other brands that are going to be better quality and also have to look at the company, not just an ingredient list.

What they're doing on that ingredient list is misleading, if you notice they are fragmenting.  Ground rice, rice bran- those ingredients and the other grains if put together as one ingredient would change the list where meat would not be the #1 ingredient.  The pet food companies are wise to the fact that pet owners are trained to see if meat is the first ingredient.  In this bag of dog food, meat is not first.


Myracle

by Myracle on 16 July 2010 - 02:07

Yup.
Nutro is owned by Mars.  As a general rule, you can be leery of any dog food company owned by a human food manufacturing company.

They use the dog food as a way to dispose of the waste produced in the manufacture of human food.  It allows them to recoup the cost, rather than pay for its disposal.

In other words, their pet food is, quite literally, garbage.  [Their human food ain't much better, frankly.]

by Gemini on 16 July 2010 - 17:07

Carlo, what are you currently feeding your little monster?

Rioko

by Rioko on 16 July 2010 - 17:07

Nutro is full of fillers and contains a huge amount of carbohydrates, nutro is a junk.. dogs dont need carbohydrates in their
diet. they were born to eat meat and  just like what their ancestors wolves eat. Orijen is an good example but there is a lot out
there like Evo, Go Naturals..it depends on your dog. Try visiting this website www.dogfoodanalysis.com maybe it can help
you choosing your dogs food. gudluck 

by Gemini on 16 July 2010 - 18:07

Thanx for the link Rioko. Lots of great info gotta read this when I have more time but thanx alot for that.

Rioko

by Rioko on 16 July 2010 - 20:07

 No problem Gemini  





 


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