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by Rania on 16 May 2010 - 23:05
Hello friends!
I'm facing a skin problem with sky. I have no idea what it is.
My German shepherd has a mask face. One day I found the hair below his eyes in the flat part of the muzzle turning yellow. Few days later, the hair was lost and there was something like a wound. I took him to the vet who told me that Sky hurt himself and kept scratching until the hair fell. I am certain that Sky was not scratching this part, at least not so often or else I would have noticed. I stay with him 24/7.
The vet told me to rub this area with an antibiotic ointment and it will heal.
I did that, but the hair hasn't grown back, and the wound was in fact ulcers.
What I do now is that I constantly clean this part with a wash prescribed for pyodermas, pruritus, pitynasis, and seborrhoeic deramitis for the scalp. Then I rub it with and ointment containing zinc oxide, chamomile, vitmin E, panthenole, lanoline, olive oil and allantoin. The ointment made the skin dry and I can see no more pus.
But still the hair isn't growing back.
What can I do? The vets here can't figure it out.
I'm facing a skin problem with sky. I have no idea what it is.
My German shepherd has a mask face. One day I found the hair below his eyes in the flat part of the muzzle turning yellow. Few days later, the hair was lost and there was something like a wound. I took him to the vet who told me that Sky hurt himself and kept scratching until the hair fell. I am certain that Sky was not scratching this part, at least not so often or else I would have noticed. I stay with him 24/7.
The vet told me to rub this area with an antibiotic ointment and it will heal.
I did that, but the hair hasn't grown back, and the wound was in fact ulcers.
What I do now is that I constantly clean this part with a wash prescribed for pyodermas, pruritus, pitynasis, and seborrhoeic deramitis for the scalp. Then I rub it with and ointment containing zinc oxide, chamomile, vitmin E, panthenole, lanoline, olive oil and allantoin. The ointment made the skin dry and I can see no more pus.
But still the hair isn't growing back.
What can I do? The vets here can't figure it out.
by starrchar on 17 May 2010 - 16:05
Has the wound/ulcer completely healed? If so, it does take a while for the hair to grow back. Have any new areas shown up? If it doesnt improve and the vet can't figure it out, I think I would go to another vet, maybe even a dermatologist if you have one in your area.
by Sunsilver on 17 May 2010 - 16:05
Get the vet to take a skin scraping. If there is an open wound still, have him take a swab and culture it to find out what bacteria might be present. You can't cure the problem if you don't know the cause! It sounds right now like he's using the scattergun approach...this is good for 10 different skin conditions, let's give it a try and see if it works!
by Lief on 17 May 2010 - 20:05
you need oral antibiotics at the very least ,topical stuff won't help it can potentially make it worse. I would ask them about using cephailexin and possibly topical or oral moxidection
by Ibrahim on 17 May 2010 - 20:05
Hello Rania,
The same thing happenned with my dog, same story with my vet who did not know the cause, his explanation was a sort of infection or insect bite etc. However I have a farmer from Egypt who takes care of that dog at the farm and he convinced me it is common in animals to develop this skin problem and they call it Labkha (لبخة ). We used Fucidin cream (anti-biotic) ointment three time daily rubbed on the affected area plus some grains called Hilbah (حلبة ) you grind it and then soften it with fresh olive oil and that was used inbetween the antibiotic applications, took 30 days till that area was fully cured, hair and original skin color returned back and now I believe it could be a genetic thing.
I have a friend who believes if Ursus Von Batu is anywhere in the pedigree, then expect all types of skin problems, he must have had bad luck with Ursus descendents.
Ibrahim
The same thing happenned with my dog, same story with my vet who did not know the cause, his explanation was a sort of infection or insect bite etc. However I have a farmer from Egypt who takes care of that dog at the farm and he convinced me it is common in animals to develop this skin problem and they call it Labkha (لبخة ). We used Fucidin cream (anti-biotic) ointment three time daily rubbed on the affected area plus some grains called Hilbah (حلبة ) you grind it and then soften it with fresh olive oil and that was used inbetween the antibiotic applications, took 30 days till that area was fully cured, hair and original skin color returned back and now I believe it could be a genetic thing.
I have a friend who believes if Ursus Von Batu is anywhere in the pedigree, then expect all types of skin problems, he must have had bad luck with Ursus descendents.
Ibrahim
by Rania on 19 May 2010 - 19:05
I've attached two photos, one I recently took of and the other of the skin problem.
I have contacted a German vet living in Sharm Elsheikh and she prescribed applying fucicort cream 1x morning and 1x evening for 5 days and see what happening and in addition give him claritine tbl, 1x morning, 1x evening for 5 days.
Sunsilver,
The vet says it could either be:
1 it could be only a local reaction to an agent, like plant, insect bite etc
2 it could be a rare form of pruritus, a kind of skin infection, because normally it spreads all over the body
3 it could be a kind of fungus.
she says that if he doesn't respond to this medication, she'll put him a general antibiotic.
Lief,
I emailed about your recommended medication and waiting for her reply.
Starrchar:
The area is expanding although some hair has grew back! And the ulcer has healed.
Ibrahim,
I know about the labkha thing but it is too risky now to try it. The area is expanding and I do not want to wait for a month.
I have contacted a German vet living in Sharm Elsheikh and she prescribed applying fucicort cream 1x morning and 1x evening for 5 days and see what happening and in addition give him claritine tbl, 1x morning, 1x evening for 5 days.
Sunsilver,
The vet says it could either be:
1 it could be only a local reaction to an agent, like plant, insect bite etc
2 it could be a rare form of pruritus, a kind of skin infection, because normally it spreads all over the body
3 it could be a kind of fungus.
she says that if he doesn't respond to this medication, she'll put him a general antibiotic.
Lief,
I emailed about your recommended medication and waiting for her reply.
Starrchar:
The area is expanding although some hair has grew back! And the ulcer has healed.
Ibrahim,
I know about the labkha thing but it is too risky now to try it. The area is expanding and I do not want to wait for a month.
by Rania on 19 May 2010 - 19:05
This photo is of a plant that grows in the backyard garden where I walk sky to pee and poop. Whenever Sky digs his muzzle in between the bushes of this plant, the thorns stick to his coat and head. I believe this plant might have caused him this problem.Although the vet is not sure hundred percent, but she advised me to Keep Sky away from it.
by Lief on 19 May 2010 - 19:05
hes such a cute dog!!! its hard to tell but it almost has a'' demodexy'' look to it, around here if they get sores or hot spots like that we wash it with surgical scrub and treat with ceph nothing topical . I wouldn't use any type zinc ointment it seems like that would slow the healing. sometimes demodex will manifest if there was a a little wound I would ask them about that
by Rania on 19 May 2010 - 20:05
Lief,
I am going to take more photos of him tomorrow. He can be cute when he wants to, but he loves to go wild.
I stopped all types of washes and solutions other than what the vet prescribed. Will wait for her to reply to your suggestions.
I am going to take more photos of him tomorrow. He can be cute when he wants to, but he loves to go wild.
I stopped all types of washes and solutions other than what the vet prescribed. Will wait for her to reply to your suggestions.
by Lief on 19 May 2010 - 21:05
how old is he?? does he have any other little ''moth eaten'' places on his legs or anywhere?
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