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hamza166

by hamza166 on 23 December 2009 - 10:12

I was reading the Hadith, yesterday evening and saw that the prophet said the following:

THE BOOK OF SALES(BARGAINS):
Chapter 57: The Price Of A Dog
Allah's Messenger forbade taking the price of a dog, money earned by prostitution & the earnings of a soothsayer.

My question for this is: If he said that it should be forbidden, to sell a dog, and he didnt sell a dog, how come many Muslims, including me, still do it? To be honest, me & my family were not aware of this until yesterday, and we have sold many dogs.

Also:

THE BOOK OF HIRING:

Chapter 6: Charging for the semen of a male animal, I.E: The copulation of animals
The Prophet forbade taking a price for animal copulation

My question for this is: if he forbade this as well, how come Muslims, thar are breeders, often still ask for Stud Fees. Although it is a problem which can be easily resolved.




Can the Owner of This Website, Please delete or Close This Thread


by happyday on 23 December 2009 - 13:12

Hamza
I wills tart by saying I am not muslim -

Maybe some Muslims are like some Christians - don't practice what they preach.......

My question to you is - are you now- knowing this - still going to buy and sell dogs?


I am just wondering - I am not trying to be a smart a##... 

Happyday



hamza166

by hamza166 on 23 December 2009 - 14:12

Happyday, yes i probably will, as i just read this explained carefully, and that this is not a major rule, but instead something that the Prophet suggested.

So yes i probably will still, but just for some people who wish to know the full extent here it is

by TessJ10 on 23 December 2009 - 14:12

"this is not a major rule, but instead something that the Prophet suggested. "

Ah, you mean like the Pirates Code in Pirates of the Carribbean?

"And thirdly, the code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules."

missbeeb

by missbeeb on 23 December 2009 - 15:12


Jeeze... can we leave religion off PDB or at the very least use the General Topic option?

by gsm44 on 23 December 2009 - 16:12



RED-FACED police have apologised for using a pup in an advertising campaign - because it offended Muslims.


They have admitted an "oversight" after complaints from Islamic residents who consider dogs "ritually unclean".

Six-month-old trainee police dog Rebel is at the centre of the row.

The German Shepherd was pictured next to a police hat and telephone on a card highlighting the Tayside force's new non-emergency contact number.

Thousands were sent out to addresses in the Dundee area.

But Muslims were angry and their local councillor raised their concerns.

Now police chiefs are investigating the failure to spot the potential for controversy over using little Rebel - named after a contest among primary schoolchildren.

A spokesman for Tayside Police said: "Rebel has proved extremely popular with children and adults since being introduced to the public, aged six weeks, as our newest canine recruit.

"His incredible popularity - on one day, he attracted over 20,000 hits on our website - led us to believe Rebel could play a starring role in the promotion of our non-emergency number.

"We did not seek advice from the force's diversity adviser prior to publishing and distributing the postcards. That was an oversight and we apologise for any offence caused."

Councillor Mohammed Asif brought the matter to the attention of Chief Constable John Vine.

Asif said yesterday: "My concern was that it's not welcomed by all communities, with the dog on the cards. It was probably a waste of resources going to these communities.

"The police should have understood.

Since then, they have explained that it was an oversight on their part and that if they'd seen it was going to cause upset, they wouldn't have done it."

Asif, a member of the Tayside Joint Police Board, added: "If people come to me with complaints and issues about the police, I have to raise them.

"A number of locals said it was not right to use the dog and asked if I could do something.

"I'm satisfied the matter is being investigated and a solution will be found."

Rebel has proved a popular recruit after coming through the first Lothian and Borders Police dog-breeding programme.

He was named after visiting St Ninian's Primary School in Dundee and many have been following his exploits through an online training diary.

He was named after visiting St Ninian's Primary School in Dundee and many have been following his exploits through an online training diary.

In conclusion Hamza,perhaps you and your family shouldn't have dogs at all!!


hamza166

by hamza166 on 23 December 2009 - 16:12

OK you dont want this topic here. Sorry

by Christopher Smith on 23 December 2009 - 16:12

You should speak to your Imam about this.

hamza166

by hamza166 on 23 December 2009 - 17:12

Christopher good point. I will. Thank you

Kaffirdog

by Kaffirdog on 23 December 2009 - 17:12

I found this an interesting observation.  I'm sure there are other Muslims on this board and I'd be interested to hear their views on this too.  Seems topical to me if we are talking about Muslims who breed and sell GSDs and not degenerating into a Muslim bashing thread.

Margaret N-J





 


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