Wolf hybrids a their look alikes - Page 1

I am new here, but this is a topic i find interesting.

what are your opinions on 'hybrids' and dogs bred to look like them?


before answering with things like 'humans spent centuries breeding the wolf out' keep in mind that until a reletively recently huskies and malamutes that went into heat were tethered in the woods to be bred by wolves to prevent inbreeding. also try to keep in mind that wolf hybrids, while viewed as dangerous by most, are only as dangerous as you make them. just like pitbulls and gsds. i have two gsd husky malamute mixes that look like a timber wolf and a siberian wolf.

i have owned a hybrid before though and she was the sweetest, gentlest dog ive ever had. what matters in hybrids is the same thing as matters with all canines. if you have an alpha you have an animak that will protect you and your 'pack' by what ever means.

I wouldn't completely say "it's as dangerous as you make them".....  With certain hybrids, just as with certain dogs in each breed it takes the right owner to raise and "train them" or else you end up with problems.  I don't have any hybrids, some people around here seem to think this dog of mine looks like he's part wolf....I can "kind of" see it in some ways....but not reallly... He's an extreme hunter, very independent,  extremely pack oriented, and doesn't respond to a lot of the typical training methods.  Total opposite of my other Huskies for the most part, but a good dog though.







And a somewhat older picture of him...

"until a reletively recently huskies and malamutes that went into heat were tethered in the woods to be bred by wolves to prevent inbreeding."

What is your source to proove this? Am no wolf expert but i do know that a wild wolf only ever resorts to mating with dogs when its own wolf population is much lower than the dog population in its area... Wolves are well known to attack dogs and even see them as a easy food source

Though going back to topic... I dont like the idea of Wolf-Hybrids but I love the look of Tamaskans (wold look a like)

i agree that wolf hybrids are not a pet for everyone. as for the source, i owned a husky a for fourteen years and in her papers, eleven generations back, both the dam and sire were listed as 'wild bred'vwhen my grandfather asked what it meant they told him that the dam and sire were the product of wolves geing bred with huskies. apparently it was used to weed out the weaker females as well.

good looking husky by the way, looks like my shadow, bless his soul. he was twelve when he passed on 08. my princess, a red and white, passed in 06 when she was 14.

my two dogs now are a mix of my favorite three breeds, and are 'look a likes'. i see this topic debated a lot, and have mixed feelings on it. a friend wants to get one, but his wife is expecting, i told him a gsd or a lab would be better, but he seems bent on it. i was looking for any other experience with hybrids, since mine were with bottle raised pups who were taken by their owners at one week' to ensure they bonded with the new pack. mine was a rescue from the same kind of background.

FWIW the wolf does not 'strengthen' the courage of a dog.  By nature, wolves are somewhat furtive and not willing to engage unless they are hunting. 

I have read that the Thuringen lines of the GSD do, in fact, contain some European Wolf and some of those lines do not bring courage to the breeding table. 

We get the whole "big bad wolf" from fairy tales.. but in reality, breeding dogs took the hunt drive and toned it down some (for working livestock with out separating an individual out to be killed for food) and the courage end had to be bred in.  Balanced drives are not the example of the wolf.  The wolf hunted when hungry and, if hungry enough (think Northern Winters) could become big and bad. 

Wolves tend to be wanderers and hunters (both sight and scent).  They do have a linear pack structure based on family groups.  Dogs tend to be scavengers and have a non linear pack structure.. the leader changes depending on which dog has the best skills for the job at hand.   

Read this. http://www.nonlineardogs.com/socialorganisation.html

F1 hybrids (dog to wolf) tend to be unreliable.. and unable to live either as dogs or as wolves. 

the early generations of a wolf-dog hybrid i cant see being a good dog. They would have all the instincts of a wolf kept in captivity but all the mental restrictions of a domestic dog. I cant really see them being good at anything other than looking pretty from a distance. I would imagine alot of them would naturally be very dominant and i guess very defensive against strange dogs they dont consider part of their pack. Not my cup of tea but I woudnt say no to a dog who was a decended far enough from a wolf-dog hybrid to be considerd in every to just be a another dog.

I think i read somewhere that wild Wolf-Dog hybrids build larger packs because they make alot more kills than pure wolves and cause of their dog ancestral bond with humans they have little to no fear of humans. Not sure how true that is but i think it shows that the dog might improve the wolf but a wolf cant possibly improve a dog

browser, have you seen "the man among wolves"?

Um, you may not like a lot of your responses. I'm glad you've had a good experience with the hybrids, but I'm not all for the idea. My mother used to have a Timber Wolf that was great with us, but highly unpredictable and aggressive towards other people, dogs, cows, chickens, pretty much anything that moved. I've known hybrids to be the same way, it's that hunting instinct. I don't trust them around children, but it's not that I don't like them.

As for breeds that look like wolves, what does that matter? Huskies look like wolves, and so do some Malamutes. And heck some shepherds can look wolf-ish, but what does that have to do with wolves. Just that they look like it? As for the wild bred thing, I've personally never heard of that. How do they know it was wolves and not coyotes, wild dogs, or neighborhood dogs? That doesn't sound like a good idea. How do you know what bred your dog?

GSDguy08  are you talking about Sean Ellis? I remember watching something with him in a few years back. Doesnt he own a pack that he keeps in a enclosed area somewhere in england?

Browser, he raised the pack as cubs and then taught them, raised them into adulthood, would bring the "kills" in.....did everything for them.   I think they even had another thing on tv about it where his wife came back and was there with them too. I didn't see that one though, I just saw the first one.  I just thought it was pretty interesting how good he did with them, but how "primal" he had to be with them and how they did accept him as the leader.....until he left for too long that when he came back.....another wolf had taken over.