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by wardawg on 25 June 2006 - 00:06

I only know two personally, Roland Sieble, and Walter Krieple (sp?). I didn't see them actually train the dogs that scored 300 points, but both have demostrated how they use prong collars to obtain these scores to me personally. So I feel pretty confident they were used to help obtain these scores.

Changer

by Changer on 25 June 2006 - 06:06

How about 100 point phases without corrective training equipment like prong collars, e-collars, maybe even fur savers and chokes? Anyone heard of anyone's sucesses? The point I'm trying to make is that people tend to go to the aversive stimuli to get those last couple points. How about anyone who hasn't yet has still managed to obtain the points?

by wardawg on 25 June 2006 - 12:06

Yep, I have had 100 point phases without corrective training in tracking. I think it would be extremely difficult to V rate in Obedience or Protection without negative reiforcement, but in tracking it can be done.

Changer

by Changer on 25 June 2006 - 15:06

It is difficult but can be done. My first dogs that I used all the traditional ways of aversion scored in the 80s and 90s. Then I decided to train naked, so to speak, and high scores so far are 100 in tracking, 100 in obedience, and 97 in protection. He also has recieved 198.5 out of 200 in AKC obedience trials. Of course, as I get more experienced, my training is better and my dogs understand me better.





 


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