Germ AKC registration - Page 1

Hope you don't mind a question from a newbie to this forum. I have a very nice puppy from a great lineage that is now 7 months old. She was reportedly bred in Austria and whelped in the US. The problem is that I have not been able to get any registration papers from her breeder. I have been told that the papers were being processed and that it would take some time to get them finalised. I have worked very hard on her training and socialization and she is turning out great. Can anyone tell me anything that I can do to get her papers done? I have contacted the AKC and they have no record yet of registration applications being filed.

if she was born in another country...in order to get her registered with the akc you need a bescheinigung from the sv which takes about 6 weeks. also she needs to be tattooed and dna. it's a long and tedious process, but first you need her pink papers which should have come with the dog when it was shipped to the u.s. your best bet would be to contact the united schutzhund club of america. www.germanshepheddog.com is the address. talk to them, they're very helpful hope it all works out for you

ProudShepherdPoppa, I read your post and understand that the dog was whelped in the US. AKC has registration sovereignty over that puppy becaus it was born in the geographical boundries of the USA. Sounds like to me, if the AKC has no application on file, you are up a creek without a paddle, for now. I cannot imagine someone breeding a dog in Austria, bringing the dog to the states and not completing the paperwork to register the litter. At 7 months old, I would venture to say you have been hoodwinked. I breed dogs in Germany and whelp in the USA and at 8 weeks the registration papers leave my house with the puppies. This may be one of the best bred dogs in the world, but until the breeder gets off his/her duff, you will not have a registered dog. If you don't plan on show or breeding, it does not matter, a good dog is a good dog. Stephen

I am fairly new to all this as well, but isn't there a way to find out if a litter has been registered if he has the breeder's name, sire and dam names and whelp information, like date litter size and such? There is a woman named Sabine Leib that works at the SV, she has been extremely helpful to me with registration questions and she may be able to help you as well. Good luck, I hope it works out! Theresa Verein für Deutsche Schäferhunde (SV) e.V. - Hauptgeschäftsstelle - Steinerne Furt 71 86167 Augsburg Tel.: +49 821 74002-59 Fax: +49 821 74002-9959 www.schaeferhunde.de

I would add that if you read the AKC regulations in order to be AKC registered both the mating and whelping has to have occurred in the United States. The other way to get the pup AKC registered will be if it is registered with an accepted foreign registry such as the SV and meets all AKC rules. Ask the breeder to provide you copies of all paperwork including the parents registration and the paperwork they have already (hopefully) submitted on the litter. Good luck with this....

ProudShepherdPoppa, I feel with the info provided from the other posts, the posters do not fully understand your predicament. If the dog was born(and registered) in Germany with the SV, and imported into the states, then what they say would apply. Your dog was whelped in the states, so since it was bred in Austria, the owner of the stud abroad would have to sign a Special Litter Registration form to verify the mating occured. The mother of the litter would also have to be registered with the AKC in order for her offspring to be subsequently registered, if I am not mistaken. It would be that simple under THIS scenario. Now the info above(previous posters), regarding the registration of the MOTHER of your puppy, WOULD apply if she was not already registered with the AKC, when she was brought into the USA. If the mother was already AKC registered, then all the breeder would need is the Special Litter Registration form, with the signature of the owner of the stud that sired the litter. At any rate all of this paperwork fiasco falls at the feet of your breeder. If the AKC is telling you no application is on file, all the time(that your breeder says is needed) in the world is not going to result in a registration for you. And you can call Sabine Leib and the SV until you are blue in the face...it will not result in any registration papers. Press your breeder for more specific information, such as: 1)the AKC registration number of the mother of the litter. 2)The date the Special Litter Registration form was signed and sent to the AKC to register the litter. 4)If the mother was imported, then info regarding registering her with the AKC. 3)The whelping date, and anything else to put the breeder in a coroner where he/she must be more specific with info regarding the registration of the litter or come clean as to not pursuing registering the litter and lying to you about it. Good luck. Stephen

Looks like DesertRangers and I were typing at the same time. Good advice on requesting copies of paperwork sent to the AKC.

Thanks to All for all the good advise. I would love to show my pup in at least obedience and possibly agility. There is some confusion as to whether she is a long coat or a plush at his point (I have been told both) so have no plans for confirmation. I need those papers!

Thanks to All for all the good advise. I would love to show my pup in at least obedience and possibly agility. There is some confusion as to whether she is a long coat or a plush at his point (I have been told both) so have no plans for confirmation. I need those papers!

If you don't get the papers and just want to do obedience and agility, you can apply for an ILP number for your dog which will allow you to compete. The details are on the AKC website.