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COULD I GET AN OPINION ON MY DOGS PEDIGREE FOR TRAINING? POSSABLY IN PROTECTION,OBEDIENCE, ETC

Many top working dogs in the pedigree, should do well for the work. Of course a dog is not always what the pedigree says he should be.

I HOPE HE HAS SOME BETTER TRAITS BASED ON THE PEDIGREE..

In the comments section of this dog, you said he was starting training in March, has the training not been started yet? By looking at the pedigree, I would say the dog should work, if the imprinting has been done. The mother of your dog was one of Bill Kulla's breedings, and I beleive is still in his club. You might want to contact him and the owners of the pups parents. Jeff

MASTERTEKH, Don’t worry about the dog’s pedigree if you want to use him for training. The dog either has it what it takes or doesn’t. Judging a pedigree on a puppy to see if he or she would be international super start in Schutzhund would be finding a needle in a hay sack. Pedigrees don’t mean jack when it comes to training. You can get the best quality puppy from top parents and still get a crap load dog with little or no drives. For an example, Look at my males pedigree, Jake Vom Volkenstein he doesn’t have much of a good pedigree on his mother side, However he works to please me. He works because he loves it. I was going to do Schutzhund on him but unfortunately he was ordered by his doctor (Vet) that he could no longer do bite work due to an operation that he received twice on his neck, He developed a cysts on his salivary glands. I was devastated. He showed so much that he could earn his SchH1 but that was destroyed because of his health condition. He is however a very good tracker. A close friend of mine thinks that he can get a FH! I hope we can do that one day.

thanks jeff, his training in basic obedience started in march 06. im confused slighty on the pedigree tho from brittanys post..

Ideally when looking for a pup FOR the sport of SchH you'd want a pup from titled parents. What brittany was saying even a pup from SchH titled parents can throw pups with insufficient drive for the sport. However you'd have the deck stacked in your favor, if the parents are "proven" with regards to working ability. For example if you want a showline puppy to do well in conformation. You'd want to purchase a pup who's parents have proven themselves in the showring with above average placements. Its the same in regards to workingline dogs, you'd want to buy a pup who's parents have proven themselves in SchH with titles and further with above average scores. Since your dogs parents do not have working titles except for a BH on the fathers side it matters more to look specifically at your pups potential through HIS drive and potential working ability. It is likely he will do well, his parents have nice pedigree's and he has some nice workingline blood, the fact that they do not have titles themselves dilutes the quality of his pedigree a little, but its not bad. Your best bet is to have your dogs' potential evaluated is by a helper or someone with experience in the sport, take him to a SchH club and have them look at him. I purchased my female before I really learned about the breed/pedigrees/titles etc.. She has a very diluted pedigree, but has very nice drives. I am doing SchH with her and she is doing well. But I am experiencing some hang ups with her. She gets spooked by gunshots. AND at first she was rather intimidated by our helper, we have since worked her alot in prey drive and she is comming around, she has nice grips and does not show much stress anymore. Perhaps the hang ups could be attributed to her less than ideal pedigree, her mother also didn't like loud noises, but she is what she is, we are in it for fun and to learn. Take care, Melanie

Also the quality of training plays a big part, even the best dog cannot reach his full potential without good training. Take care, Melanie

Color me green with envy! my brother owned Danny Vom Hainpark for the last 6 years of his life. Danny was one of the most incredible dogs I have ever known. He is greatly missed. I have been a big fan of Hainpark since having known Danny and a few other relatives. My next working line pup will come from a niece, and I look forward to that. I will tell you this, and take it for whatever it is worth, keeping in mind, as stated previously, training plays a major role in the dog's performance...Danny was trialed numerous times, and his obedience scores were always low. His tracking and protection scores were high. Lucky you! I want a Hainpark!

his drive for the ball is insane....speed & more speed is his drive...his bite is full & hard.basic commands are getting better each week.the person i purchased the dog from does sch & k9 training...his name is butch spangler...spangler haus german shephards.com .. he is doing the basic training.jorns parents are both being sch trained..he has some ddr champions in his pedigree, whatever that means exactly......keep the posts comming, for im learning quite a lot about our new family member thanks,sean