Having trouble with AKC need suggestions - Page 1

Why is it that AKC can force a stud owner to sign a liter registration When the female owner has not paid a stud fee? All input is welcome.

If you have a contract that specifies how much payment is due prior to signing any registration forms, I don't see how they could force the stud owner to sign. If there is no contract that's a different matter. Then you have nothing proving a stud fee was even required.

They can do it because your avenue of recourse for you stud fee is your local small claims court, but the fact remains that your dog did cover the bitch, and a pregnancy is alleged to have resulted in a litter of pups. In the eyes of the AKC, the registration papers for the pups are not something that can be tied to any monetary value--for example, it is a violation of AKC rules to sell pups at one price with their registration, and at a reduced price without the registration (even though people do it all the time, one can lose their AKC privileges for doing so if push came to shove). It's like child support and visitation--one is not allowed to be dependent upon the other. You could possibly insist on a DNA test being run on the pups in question, which would delay the issuance of any registration papers on them, but that will cost additional $$$ and if the bitch owner hasn't paid the stud fee, it's unlikely that they'll pay to have the DNA run... If you sign the litter registration, at least the pups can be sold with registrations, so they would be worth more than if they were unregisterable...and you'll probably have a better chance of getting your stud fee money if the bitch owner actually sells the pups. In the meantime, you need to file in small claims court ASAP, so there can be some legal lien placed on the monies the bitch owner gets from the sale of the pups until you receive your agreed-upon stud fee.

that is what i was thinking also. thank you for the response.

Why not try to get a puppy from the litter. You could sell it. Probably worth the same as the stud fee.

Let me guess...was the owner of the female a "friend"? I would be ashamed to solicit AKC for papers on a litter for which I had not paid a legitimately owed stud fee ....but then I am an honest person. You must be too if you thought the owner was going to pay up with a verbal agreement only. I would go with Hexe on this one. Small claims court ASAP. I know this might be hard to do if this was a friend but looks like the bridge was burned already....and Karma is $#%! ...(just wait until the puppy buyer asked to see the sire....that would get interesting...) Good Luck...

In defense of the female owner. The facts are: the original agreement was pick of the litter then the sire owner said no amount will do and wouldn't sign any papers, then the sire owner changed it's mind again from asking 1000 stud fee in cash, to asking for 850.00 in cash! What reputable breeder would ask for cash and not offer a stud contract and change their minds continually. The AKC was asked to help resolve the issue. The stud fee will be paid when the papers are signed and the fee can be properly documented. Things are not always what they seem, there are always two sides, and in this case all correspondence are in the hands of the AKC.

"The facts are: the original agreement was pick of the litter then the sire owner said no amount will do and wouldn't sign any papers, then the sire owner changed it's mind again from asking 1000 stud fee in cash, to asking for 850.00 in cash!" Wow....you must be the party in question since you are stating the facts.....just joined to defend yourself? In the real world ...I have never bred my female that I didn't pay the stud fee up front (with a cashier's check so I have a receipt). I can see why that didn't happen if you were going to give a puppy. With that said ...I always pay the stud fee because my pups are worth more than $1000.00.(maybe yours aren't?) From a pup, to 1000 to 850...no most breeders do not drop their prices...you must have been a friend.(or a car salesman..lol) My question to you is...why not just pay the stud fee with a cashier's check and keep big brother out of the transaction? Are you waiting until you sell the pups to get the money? Just curious...I don't own a male and if I do someday....hexe has made me a big believer in contracts.

blu2stang I'm not quite sure what you are talking about. The stud fee and the pick puppy are not what I am speaking of. I believe that you have confused this with someone else. I am not talking about a friend this is happening to me personally. Thanks for all input.

The money was demanded in cash, there was also training done for a client of this person and the fee was to be deducted from a breeding, then this person changed their mind again, and again. This breeder does not want others to know the true colors so I hope it goes to court, the media will have a field day! There's alot to the story, sorry I got upset. Being taken for a ride and having your name trashed among friends is no picnic. This person will get a stud fee as soon as the papers are signed.