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by kaden on 28 May 2009 - 01:05

I know many people seem to think that working dogs cannot get along with each other and that most working dogs are dog aggressive. Mine live together and do wonderful (of course there is the occasional scuffle but nothing serious).  I have been looking at getting an older (around 1 yr) dog and people seem to think I am crazy when I say I want one that is not dog aggressive, at least with dogs in his/her own household. Is this true and if so do you just house your dogs all separately and how do you go about that? I like my dogs to work but to also be part of my family - they sleep in my room, play together in the backyard, go to the lake together etc. Am I just being unrealistic to want this with my next dog?.

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 28 May 2009 - 02:05

Kaden, you can't generalize. It all depends on the individual dog. Every breeder I know has certain dogs that can't be turned out with certain other dogs without fights erupting. Females are reportedly the worst. During the brief time I had 2 females, they would fight to see who got to sleep beside the bed at night.

I don't believe working lines are any worse or any better than showlines when it comes to this. It all depends on pack dynamics. Sometimes two males will do well together, until one becomes old and weak, and then the young one will challenge him, and bloodshed will result.

The safest mix is, of course, a male and a female. If you want to try anything else, BE CAREFUL. Crate or kennel the dogs when they are left alone to be on the safe side.

SchHBabe

by SchHBabe on 28 May 2009 - 03:05

The notion that "working dogs can't coexist" is simply not true across the board.  Not only is this dependent on the dogs in question, but also on the OWNER.  How many times do folks want to crucify the dog for always being at fault!  Anyone who owns multiple dogs in the same household runs the risk of a fight erupting, even if the same dogs lived in peace for years. 
A savvy handler takes the leadership role in the household and the dogs acknowlege this.  Coupled with a generous dose of prudence, this can go a loooong way to prevent unnecessary conflict. 

My hubby and I own a sharp Malinois and a GSD and left to their own devices, we'd be one dog less in the house.  However, we are cognizant of brewing trouble and head it off before it erupts into out and out warfare. 

Long story short... the ability to handle multiple dogs in the same house is a function of both the dogs, and the owner.

 


Kaffirdog

by Kaffirdog on 28 May 2009 - 11:05

The Management are getting on for 10 now and lived together all their lives, currently sharing the house with a high drive Sch H III Malinois female with no issues.

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Margaret N-J

by 1doggie2 on 28 May 2009 - 16:05

This depends on the dogs, also if you bring in another one you can upset the peace that you now enjoy. You need to be prepared to live in a house divided. My girlfriend uses the child gates to block off rooms

by VomMarischal on 28 May 2009 - 19:05

 Everybody told me I couldn't keep a mother and daugher peacefully in my house, but the two are inseparable. It's weird, like the big dominant one lets her mom boss her around. Very cute, and very lovey-dovey, always washing each other's faces.

by k9ulf on 29 May 2009 - 06:05

I can confirm what Margarety( Kaffirdog) said. All three dogs are highdrive and SchH qualified. They live together in the house with no issues. the decoy for the GSDs and the mali Handler, its me and I live in this house too
just see for yourself what kind of dogs they are.

Video1

video2

video3

All the best
Ulf

missbeeb

by missbeeb on 29 May 2009 - 08:05


Really enjoyed your videos, K9ulf.

Margaret, is that you shouting out?  I'd "out" too... lol... great job!

Kaffirdog

by Kaffirdog on 29 May 2009 - 10:05

Hi Missbeeb

It is me handling Hot Diggery Dog (vid 1) and Digby Dogbi (vid 3).  Both The Management and Floh the Mali have only ever had Schutzhund training,   The vids were taken just a few weeks ago, first shots, no rehearsal or pretraining, hence the embarrassing lack of control on my two who have been retired for years, in fact, doing this reality exercise with them was a spur of the moment thing since Floh was the one we wanted to test in an "off the training field" situation.

In case you wondered why I sat down for a minute, it was less to do with my age and fitness than the fact Ulf inadvertantly bashed me on the head with the stick, knocking the phone out of my hand and almost stunning me.  The decoy in Flohs vid was a local farmer who had never worn a sleeve before and had just come to train his own dog and I thought he deserved an Oscar for his performance, his ad lib was superb.

As you can see, we had a great laugh and I think the vids show that a properly trained Schutzhund dog with the right temperament will "get real" without the trappings of the training field if necessary.

Margaret N-J

missbeeb

by missbeeb on 29 May 2009 - 13:05


Thanks for that, Margaret!

Do you and K9ulf hold training weekends... or something similar?  It's not for now, but for future reference.  IF I have another (I keep saying I won't) I want to give Sch a try... I think!  IF I get another, it will have to be show quality (I will want to show it too) with real working ability.  So... if anyone out there has a "Mambo" up for grabs...???





 


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