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goldenfallsgsd

by goldenfallsgsd on 18 December 2009 - 21:12

Anyone ever heard of adding flaked maize to the feeds in order to keep the stools tight?


by Jeevs on 18 December 2009 - 22:12

With horses this is fed to keep them warm in winter and I would imagine it would have an over heating effect on dogs.  It is also used in many of the cheaper unextruded foods, and many dogs have allergies to this type of food.

by Adi Ibrahimbegovic on 18 December 2009 - 23:12

Are you asking hypotheticaly or...? Are yourdogsstollsrunny? If yes, what are you feeding him/her right now that makes it runny?

by Mark3 on 19 December 2009 - 18:12

Yes, I’ve heard of it, from a vet that is long gone now. He recommended a spoonful of bran and maize with the feed for some GSD with loose motions.

We rescued a bitch over 11 years ago that was malnourished, coat falling out, painfully thin; everything she ate went straight through her. After trial and error over a few months, we tried a spoonful of bran and maize coupled with a high energy dog food and a vitamin supplement.  It did the trick, we then stopped the bran/maize, vit sup and never looked back. She’s nearly 13 years old now.

by SHERNAA on 19 December 2009 - 19:12

When I was young at home with my parents, they rescued a GSD female, they were told she just had to put weight on but infact she was pancreatic, my mum fed her on Chappie and Flake Maize, thats all she could eat without being loose, and she did well on it.  Obviously she never really put weight on but lived on till 13 years old, heartbreaking when Cass passed her away.

Kerry


by mclay on 19 December 2009 - 20:12

 You may want to look at this from a different angle. Perhaps you should look at what you are currently feeding your dog first. Go with a quality, grain-free food. You may find it simpler to go on www.dogfoodanalysis.com and go to the Reviews section and click on 6-star foods.
Adding more corn to a diet (which I am suspecting) is full of grains is not the answer. You will want to boost/replace your dogs intestinal flora. This is especially true with those experiencing these issues who have had their dogs on antibiotics. Antibiotics kill the bad as well as the good bacteria, making your dogs digestive system unable to properly digest the food.
Re: pancreatic issues.. I have seen raw pig pancreas fed to stabilize/assist this with great success, combined with a raw or grain-free kibble.
Look for foods/supplements that will boost intestinal flora (a product named Feedsentials is good for this, made in Canada), Prozyme, etc. and feed a grain-free diet. This is not about simply tightening the stool, but about creating an internal system that does this on its own and functions properly allowing the dog to use the nutrients contained in the food that it is ingesting.

by Heather on 19 December 2009 - 20:12

Not sure about flaked maize but we do put a spoonful of wheat bran (ASDA 59p per bag) on all the puppies food and have done it for the last year, having been advised by a top breeder in Germany that it was great for puppies, particularly if they get a bit loose, when wormed etc.  I have to be honest and say since using it, we have had no problems at all.  As soon as pups are weaned, we start to give it to them and continue it up till around 4/5 months in the pups we keep.  I'm definitely convinced it works but that is just wheat bran.

Cheers

Heather 

by schdiva on 20 December 2009 - 00:12

 Maize is just another word for corn = aflatoxins.

by Langhaar on 21 December 2009 - 15:12

Aflatoxins are no more or less likely in grain than say botulism is in canned food etc.
If you buy poor grains which have been contaminated and/or poorly stored then this can be an issue; just as salmonella, campylobacter, giardia etc can be in either commercially or raw fed dogs!

Maize is another word for corn.  It is tryptophan deficient and not necessarily a grain of choice for dogs if you think grain is suitable I would feed oats, rice, maize in that order; if I fed it which I do not.
Maize has traditionally been given to horses in slow work especially draught work; I have worked at stud farms, racing stables, x country, polo ponies and none have ever been fed maize.
Stools are affected by many things usually an unsuitable (for that dog) diet or often simply overfeeding and/or excitable dogs can have soft or loose stools.

Grains can provide a source of prebiotics which has a synergistic effect with probiotics and maintain good gut flora, however you can probably do this better by feeding a banana for example with live yoghurt.
There is barely any goodness left in bran due to commercial milling processes and is used just as a source of fibre.

However at the end of the day, what suits one does not suit another.

steve1

by steve1 on 21 December 2009 - 18:12

You do not get afatoxins in Maize, You get it in Peanuts
Regards feeding Maize to Dog i would not or Wheat or Soy, Oats are okay and Rice in small amounts
Steve1





 


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