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Crimsonribbon, I really feel sorry for your poor dog, have had to go through a similar thing, although not with that kennel. Ive noticed on here that a load of people just blame bad buyers, never bad breeders! Jeff is obviously that type of person, just sees his dogs as objects to make bucks out of and has totally no feelings about animals, thank God we re not all like that and there are some really good breeders out there, ignore his retarded comments and good luck with your dog!

I don't actually have a dog from Kraftwerk. My dog is from an animal shelter and she's got an iron gut and pretty good health (hips aren't the best ever). She's on this site as Ribby von Yuba Sutter Animal control. I was saving up money to buy a Kraftwerk pup but I think I can find something even better!

Crimson,

Did you look at Heimat kennels?  I would love to have one of their pups.  My Kraftwerk dog IS  a good one though!  I personally would not have paid that much for a dog, but she is a good dog!  I have had exceptional luck with her!!!!

But, that litter at Heimat that is sired by Elutte is REALLY nice!!!!  Let me know if you need any help!

Vickie

www.PowerHausKennels.com

crimson,

your dogs name cracks me up! Ribby vom YSAC lol. I guess you are close to me? I  currently have 2 I rescued too, before I started laying out the bucks for a papered dog. You said you are saving up, what are you looking for in a dog? Maybe we can help point you in the right direction.

Quote: Jeff is obviously that type of person, just sees his dogs as objects to make bucks out of and has totally no feelings about animals, thank God we re not all like that and there are some really good breeders out there, ignore his retarded comments and good luck with your dog!

First let me thank you for your 100% incorrect judgement. Nice to know that there are still people out there that do not look before they leap.

1, I am absolutely against dogs having a high monetary value. This is what causes the downfall of our breeds, because people put two dogs together to make money.

2, As far as feelings about animals, in person, if you even think about hurting an animal in front of me, I will pick you up and throw you into traffic. I will not hesitate to do so. I have rescued somewhere around 3000 dogs that I gave basic manners to. They were not all purebreds, just decent dogs. I do not know anyone even close to me when it comes to this kind of work, but I am sure there are a few. (very few)

3, The hardest thing for new people to get is that this is a business. There are animals involved, which most people get extremely sentimental about in a very short time. I cannot tell you how many times while interviewing a potential client I have heard "He is a great dog, but.............(fill in the 10 or so really bad things about this junk dog)   Tell me this. How in the name of "F" all is this a great dog????? Where do people like this grow up???? Fantasy Island???  However, because of this sentiment, there are people out there, that make a very good living scamming people out of a lot of money. I am not talking about Kraftwerk, as I know people that have nice dogs from them. But there are a lot of them out there. Think how many LESS would be out there if we mailed their junk back to them. In the end, the welfare of dogs OVERALL would be better off. Your thought process is way too short sighted.

4, I am guessing you have never had to choose between the dog getting fed, and YOU or YOUR CHILDREN getting fed. I grew up a bit different. The dogs we had either hunted, or they were shot. We made money off them, and got food from their ability. This also means that if and when I say a dog is a great dog, then he is truely great, not sort of OK, which I see most of the time. I just have a different standard.

Nice that you think you know me in such a short time. LOL

Powerhaus and 4pack

I actually live in Portland now; I lived in California 5 years ago when I got my Ribb from Yuba Sutter. I have looked at Heimat-- very nice looking dogs, I looked at Powerhaus and Banach as well. I want to get a shepherd that is first and foremost a companion. I do a lot of things with my dogs (walking, hiking, bike riding, swimming at the lake, camping) so I want a dog that's energetic and has sound hips and an agile frame. I want a dog that would protect me if need be and has enough drive to do Shutzhund. But I would expect this dog to behave the same way as Ribby when people approach: perked ears, fearless but not unfriendly gaze, does not jump on people or expect to be petted, but if they do pet, she wags her body and and become a little puppyish. She would allow anyone to examine her or even pick her up. Ribb is a dog that would not take a hamburger when a child offered it to her on a camping trip. She sat there, looked at it, but would not touch it until the little girl put it on the ground.

I am still a ways off from having the money saved to buy a pup, it's going to be probably 6 months to a year before I'm ready. I am a little worried that getting a dog from working lines may mean getting a dog with more drive and energy than I want. For this reason as well as others I need to meet the pups parents before I go any further. I want a dog that will have enough energy to go for a 6 hour hike, but I don't want a dog that's constantly pacing when he's in the house looking for something to do and something to bark at. I want a dog that is friendly until he has a reason not to be.

What made you choose the kraftwerk Dog that you bought from them?   What was your reasons for buying it?

Jeff, you are right when you say that I grew up ina different way to you. My parents wereeducated enough not to have kids or dogs til they could afford to, and I wouldnt choose to own dogs unless I can afford to have them well insured for veterinary bills etc. I personally don t think its fair to have dogs unless you can afford to feed them, whats all that about your dogs having to hunt for food or get shot, where on earth do you come from, the words redneck and duelling banjos spring to mind! I too, work in breed rescue for unwanted shepherds so I try to do my bit. but no, I cant say that I ve rescued that many shepherds, you must be a real saint too! Have a nice day, Lissa.

Quote: where on earth do you come from, the words redneck and duelling banjos spring to mind!

Maybe, we had a guy in town that could play the banjo, But the one thing we had were good dogs. Never had to make an excuse for them.

My parents are my parents, and they figured out the money thing, so don't worry about them. They have enough now. : )

It is all good and fun to talk about how a dog SHOULD be, but I wonder what your mindset would be if the dog you chose turned cur and your family got hurt.

Jeff,

Don't pay attention to Lissa's post.  Her history demonstrates a limited mental capacity that normally results in responding in the most inappropriate personal style.  I have been her target in the past on similar topics

A quick search on other posts would clearly show that Lissa could buy a pup from you and if that pup lived to be 14 years old, its death would clearly be the result of a breeder trying to cheat her.