Been ripped off by one big reeding kennel,safe to use another?

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by Lissa on 26 May 2007 - 17:05

I m thinking of getting a puppy, but some years ago was ripped off and treated pretty badly by Malcolm Griffiths, who sold us a weedy, hyper female who had a load of medical conditions. When we told him we werent happy he was very unhelpful and rude, and in the end we only had the poor dog for 3 yrs as she died of cancer. It was awfully upsetting to see her so ill, and very depressing to see that some breeders don t care for anything except your money. I ve been checking out another large kennel website as there are puppies due, but am worried in case I get the same problem again, as I m a reletive novice, and wander if the breeder will just try and get rid of his poorest type puppy, but tell us theyre all the same and he never breeds poor dogs, just as M.G. did! How do you know who to trust, as these breeders all seem to be in a clique, and support each other, even if theyr e in the wrong?

by AZSHEP6 on 26 May 2007 - 17:05

You are absolutely right. Every kennel in existence is designed to screw their customers and screw the customers of other kennels as well. Remember that a litter averages 6-8 pups and the kennel keeps 5-7 of those puppies and sells the weak link. That way they make the most money, by selling a single pup. Go buy a fish

by eichenluft on 26 May 2007 - 17:05

ask for references, check testimonial pages on websites - ask for direct contacts to the people who made the testimonials, and contact info for people who have dealt with/own dogs from the breeder(s) you are interested in. Don't listen to rumor - check with people directly before trusting information you get second-hand. Then go meet the breeder in person, meet their dogs in person before making a decision, or speak to someone you trust that has done so. Check the guarantee/contract to make sure it is acceptable to you.

molly

http://workinggermanshepherd.com

by sueincc on 26 May 2007 - 17:05

It's up to you to do your homework before buying a dog. You need to research the breed of dog you want. You need to know what traits you want in a dog, visit various breeders, get to know the dogs that are for sale. You need to find the dog that's right for you, how would you expect a breeder to do that for you? You say she was a "weedy, hyper female who had a load of medical conditions". You may be describing a working line dog when a show line might have been better for you. You need to know the difference before you buy. What were the medical conditions she had at the time you bought her?

I'm very sorry your dog got sick & died. Exaclty how was it the breeders fault your dog died of cancer three years after you bought her?

If you have such mistrust of breeders you may be happier rescuing a dog from a shelter. I'm afraid you would find fault with any breeder if the puppy weren't perfect. Many rescue organizations have purebred dogs for adoption.

I don't know Malcolm Griffiths, and I am not a breeder. I am however; alarmed at the number of people who expect more from a breeder than is fair. They can't guarantee everything. Dogs aren't robots.

by MattL on 26 May 2007 - 18:05

I know what you mean lissa i have been there to with a so called top UK kennel.I have since put that behind me & moved on and have some good friends with excellent dogs.They are some of the countries top kennels,if you want to email please do so.

Matt L

by MattL on 26 May 2007 - 18:05

Sorry forgot to add email address its matts@lang67.fsnet.co.uk

Matt L

by Janette on 26 May 2007 - 18:05

In hindsight....don't buy anything that you cant go and look at. It does'nt really matter if its a big kennel or not. People are people. There are those who trulely try to stand behind what they sell. Usually they keep their breeding stock for more than the whelping time.Some breeders buy bitches already bred ,whelp the litter, keep what they want. Then sell the bitch and really dont care if you have a problem becuase they dont have her any more.

by Lissa on 26 May 2007 - 18:05

THANKS aZSHEP6 for that ridiculous piece of sarcasm with regards to some breeders not being honest. No wonder people coming into the breed get put off all too easily if you are a typical shepherd fan. I was not saying that all breeders are dishonest, but there are certainly a few of them around, as there are in all walks of life. If you make excuses for them you must be one of them.

by Shepherd Woman on 26 May 2007 - 18:05

Do your research on the breeder first! Go and see her/his kennels, and check the dam and sire out also. Get some references if possible. If you have a specific kennel in mind, check out every pup before you buy, and pick which one YOU like, don't just take the word of the breeder if you are that leary.

by Lissa on 26 May 2007 - 18:05

Thanks, Shepherd Woman! I will do that, but if thers only one or two puppies left, its quite daunting! The last breeder assured me either puppy was perfect in every way and, because of their bloodlines would be excellant in temperment, both the sire and dam were showline dogs, and I just thought I d be fine, as it was one of the top winning kennels at that time, but I guess I just got unlucky. The breeder could have been alot more helpful afterwards though, he just didnt want to know, which, surely if you care about the welfare of your dogs woulnt go amiss! Lissa.

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