Breeder's code of ethics - Page 6

What Daryl just said rang a bell, I will say what many believe in my country and that is not necessarily my belief or correct, just thought to mention it:

Human is super to all other animals, God created all animals for the service of human, some to eat and some to work for him, dogs are included, to serve human.
People here mainly use dogs to herd and or guard, recently owning small show dogs at home is picking up, but basically the dog is to serve as guard and or for sheep herding. They believe that all animalls should be treated humanely but without spoiling, there is a common saying here, a dog which does not protect its place is not worh the food given to it. Many think that in the West World dogs are being served by human not the way around.
Please no one takes this negatively, nothing meant in ill spirit, I only thought of mentioning it, if anyone finds it inappropriate I will remove it.

Ibrahim

Many think that in the West World dogs are being served by human not the way around.

I think there is much truth to that Ibrahim.  No offence taken here, as I think we are a little screwy in the West.

Blitzen, I agree pet quality dogs can be neutered, but not before a year.  Unfortunately breeders (most of them) are quite willing to sell you a dog for breeding, (if you want to pay more) no matter what the quality of the dog is.
As for the pet breeders I was referring to, all they do is breed pet quality, so who are they to tell anyone anything?  They should spay and neuter their breeding stock.

Gotcha, RS.

I'm not one who is sold on the early neutering, big problems issue. I've seen too many dogs neutered before they were a year old and I can't recall any having any health issues that are now attributed to doing that. We did a lot of test breedings in my original breed and neutered those puppies as early as 8 weeks of age, kept health records on each puppy .Another thread for another time.



 

Huh?  Serious GSD breeders I know buy from and breed to other's dogs all the time.  I'm not following your line of thinking at all, Daryl. Where did you get your dogs? Weren't they attained from reliable breeders who health and performance tested their parents?

I wouldn't neuter before 2.5 years, I don't see humans fixing their kids(unless medically necessary) until they are adults. You can't take away the hormones in my opinion and develop male characteristics. Tried it years ago and have seen it plenty of times, doesn't appear to work. Even some vets will tell you that exact same thing, well if they have a lick of sense.
JMO for the little it is worth here.


Daryl,

I don't think you could get 10 people to agree on anything. People don't want to work together unless you do it their way or what they perceive to be the right way. Just what I have noticed in all my years of existence.

I thought "serious dog people" was refering to handlers, not breeders.

No, I was talking about other breeders.

Well then, there basically ARE no serious dog breeders in this country, and those that come close don't purchase their breeding stock from other US breeders (i.e., me).

I don't think you could get 10 people to agree on anything.

IMHO this is just wrong. We have 12 member juries who do it all the time. Right or wrong, they do agree, unanimously.

Sorry to interrupt this thread. Carry on.

Too bad you haven't met more GSD breeders in the US, Daryl.