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by Red Sable on 27 May 2010 - 17:05
Thank you for your common sense and helpful response Poseidon. I agree.
I think Mrk wants a little sharper dog that alerts to strangers. That is what I want to. I don't need a dog to eat every visitor, but I do need one to let me know someone is here, and to deter unwanted guests. Theft is common around here. Many losers would rather take what other's have worked hard for than work for it themselves. I trust my dogs to let me know when someone is snooping around. If they are too confident to bark, 
than they are not doing their job, and are of little use. I may as well own a lab.
by GSDfan on 27 May 2010 - 17:05
by jade on 28 May 2010 - 19:05
by majestic10110 on 28 May 2010 - 20:05
Most all Sch dogs are trained to go for a sleeve, a few things need to happen to get them to personal protection stage and this hasnt happened with your two.
Your two have trust of Humans.
Basically the first stage of protection training is to teach the dog through a process called agitation that not all humans can be trusted, so a tied back or caged dog will be intimidated in a controlled threat by a human. Once this process is done it cannot be undone. So for most homes its not required as the sight of your shepherds will deter most people.
Speaking from experience as i have a civil dog, it creates a liability in a way and you have to be extra careful i.e tell people the rules regarding the dog i.e dont talk to him, dont look at him, dont pat him, just ignor
To have a dog like this involves stress, so think hard before flicking the one way switch.
All the best
by Judy P on 28 May 2010 - 22:05
by Royal1 on 30 May 2010 - 05:05
My Uncle told me a story about show line dog!
Their was one person had a show line dog that never bark at anyone, always very calm and you would never here her voice, he thought it was useless dog that he only kept her as a pet dog but not a protective dog.
Well ones upon time, owner and his freind left for work I belived, but then they forgot something in the house. So the owner said go to my house and get what we left in the house, so his freind said ok.
Well, the freind got into the house, the useless show dog let his freind into the house with no problem. But as soon he picked up what they forgot in the house and he try to leave the house and go outside. This useless show dog corner him in the corner started showing her teeth and would not let him move and get out. She did let him in but she did not let him out of the house until owner came back looking for his freind, wondering what is the delay about; since his freind did NOT come back while owner was waiting for him.
by bea teifke on 01 June 2010 - 02:06
when you buy a puppy from a litter , not all will be top watch dogs, some will be basic pets, i have one great watch dog and one that does not care. it also has to do with there temp. and if you have done any training.
some also have natural instinct.., sounds like you have nice pets.. i love the show lines, they work well for me...
by blair built gsd on 01 June 2010 - 05:06
by Marcelitaz on 01 June 2010 - 18:06
This is the translation of an article written by Cesar Guzman (sorry for my mistakes, my native lenguage isn´t english) .
The communication between dog and man: communication, hierarchy and status
Cesar Guzman
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To understand our dogs, we must take account of their origin, behavior patterns and evolution. ... Of their ancestors to become the animal that is today.
Nature has given to all dogs, whether it be race, a series of behaviors that are proper. That is, all dogs descended from wolves, (today, the majority of authors and scholars, agree, as both species are almost equal, matching their DNA sequences in 99.8%) and the evolutionary period until our days is relatively small, so there are a number of behaviors and patterns of natural and innate behavior that remain unchanged in the dogs and that both professionals and owners we know how to interpret and take to educate and / or train them.
The dog communicates his mood, desires, intentions, needs ... combining movements of different parts of your body (look, overall body posture, tail position, mouth, lips and ears, bristling hair, issuance of various shades Bark, moans, howls and growls ...)
One of the most remarkable qualities of the canines is their great ability to communicate, not only to communicate them clearly but also to interpret expressions, gestures, sounds, chains ... etc events of those around him.
For example: When your dog hears the sound of keys, coupled with the busy routine when we go out, immediately becomes agitated and the exit points and when you look at it with a smile, comes happily to caress him, and if you face serious note, remains where it is looking away, carefully sneaks, or submission to release you communicating about a lick of mind ... etc
Is to draw this great capacity to correctly interpret our gestures, how to act ... for an animal that is born to live, communicate, cope ... between individuals of the same species, learn to coexist with humans. To achieve this goal without fail we have to give a consistent education that takes into account their original behaviors.
The owner intends to train your dog without exercising "authority" (eye! Authority is not equal to abuse), which is actually doing is giving to educate.
Just keep in mind that the dog if they live in groups, establishing their relationships and communicate with other members of one form or another, depending on their status within the herd. The individual alpha, gives effect to their rights and has its obligations, which is to exercise authority over the rest of the group. Similarly beta individuals, exercise their rights and obligations, behave and communicate in a different way if they relate to individuals who are below them in the ranks, if they do it with the alpha or those found in upper levels . (well, we see individuals beta, when alpha is not present, exercising them, move with the high tail, upright ears, make marks with the leg raised ...., however when the individual enters the scene alfa group , tail and ears down, avoiding a direct look in the eye and make pee squatting, as do females .- Ultimately communicate differently depending on the scale they occupy and that individual is associated)
When dogs are part of a group of people, must accept being the bottom rung of the ladder and simply compete with individuals of their own species. As an example I am going to put mine ... always seen from the point of view of my dogs:
by Marcelitaz on 01 June 2010 - 18:06
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