Breeder's code of ethics - Page 5

I have seen pet breeders mostly that require a spay/neuter, usually by a year of age.  I think it's a joke.  Here they are (and I've seen this personally) selling oversized spooks that barely resemble GSD's, no titles, often no hip checks, selling a dog for over a Grand, yet telling buyers what to do with their dogs.  Hypocrites.   They can keep their dogs.

Personally, I think hormones are for more then sex, and if breeders REALLY care about over population of pets, they themselves wouldn't be breeding!

Daryl, I didn't say you don't health test and why would I worry about what you do with your dogs?  Since you want to challenge every suggestion regarding breeders' responsibililties to their buyers,  I asked you which tests YOU feel are essential prior to breeding.  I first looked at your website and didn't see much mentioned about health or performance testing ergo the question. 

RS,  I see nothing wrong with asking that a pet quality dog is neutered. I don't know of many litters that haven't produced dogs that aren't breed worthy for one reason or another.

One of the bad things about being a breeder in the U.S., is it's difficult to get a solid feel for how YOU are producing in your own program.  Only a third to a half of my puppy buyers express their desire to get involved in a working venue, and many of THOSE never do.  That many or less even submit their AKC papers AT ALL for registration, and fewer still xray hips/elbows for OFA.  That's a huge disadvantage to standing breeders and their future generations.  So then naturally, it's easier to SELECT from european stock, because of generations of production results with fewer instances of OMITED information.  So what about BUYER responsibility?  No one wants to hear what the breeder's "requirements" are for the pup (i.e., hips/elbows), and there's no real recourse if they don't follow through.  Don't get me wrong though, it's for the most part their dog to do with as they like in my eyes.

Some of top breeders wouldn't sell you a pup if they're not sure it will be HD/ED tested provided it is trained and titled and the pup wouldn't be a future star prospect, such puppies are kept for themselves or their breeder/trainer friends. Some of the top breeders wouldn't sell a puppy outseide their own country, I was once denied a puppy and the reason 'I don't send my puppies abroad'.
Those breeders have a lot of prospect buyers waiting in the que so they can force their own terms and hence can keep extraordinary records and follow up on their offspring.
A small breeder will never be able to excell at this part of the breeding unless his breeding program brings high attention through high achievements and that is less likely but it can be done.
A buyer who does not want to breed or is not involved in show or sport wouldn't HD/ED test, those who do are a minute minority I imagine. An average breeder has no means to force his/her buyers to do specific things with their dogs as I imagine.

I add: I noticed that in Germany usually breeders work together in groups, that gives them a better chance at competing and taking their breeding program forward.

Ibrahim

Ibrahim, you took the words right out of my mouth. AND serious dog people are not going to buy dogs from breeders who don't health test and trial their breeding stock. Why would they?

I had many lengthy discussions with my friends here about breeding, it is easy to breed beautiful dogs and select from the offspring and continue, the harder part is to establish or continue with a health sound line unless you have scientific establishments to back you up. The even harder part is to establish or continue a character sound line if you don't train yourself (breeder himself or his own trainer) and go through the experiment of getting to feel and know your own dogs and make a vision of what they could pass to their offspring, breeding without health follow up and training follow up is just like half blind walking in a busy avenue. One will never reach the top, he will produce some good and some bad and every now and then a very good one but he can never say he has a breeding program but still he can be called a breeder.

Ibrahim

Here: means in my country

Allow me to sum up this Breeder's code of ethics with one picture:

AND serious dog people are not going to buy dogs from breeders who don't health test and trial their breeding stock. Why would they?
 

AND serious dog people are not going to buy dogs from breeders who DO health test and trial their breeding stock.  So then what's the point in it?  They're going to import from the latest popular european producers anyway.   Look at our national schutzund competitors and tell me how many had home-bred dogs you see.  Very few indeed, and for every ONE, there's hundreds more from the same breeder doing NOTHING they were tailored for.  You can't to base your breeding program on less than one percent of your customers, overproducing fitness for such a minute demand.  Definitely not my goal.  The sporting venues in this country can't uphold it, the number of "serious dog people" are too few to support the demand necessary for a "serious breeding strategy".  And OH MY......... could you really imagine any of US working "together"?!!  We're divided on so many levels, it's ridiculous.

keep some stock back and do it yourself! Takes some time but really teaches you tons about the dogs you produce.