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by beetree on 11 April 2012 - 14:04
I think it is tragic, but that teacher did not take into account her surroundings and should have been more prepared to defend herself against any wild animal attack, not just wolves. A very costly mistake on her part. I don't blame wolves for being wolves.
(I also find it bizarre that whoever found her body, just left it there, resulting in the wolves returning to feed!)
by zdog on 11 April 2012 - 14:04
Yes, I am fairly classy, thanks for noticing. Seriously, you're millions of times more likely to die from your own stupid actions than by a wolf. Like I said, notify me when it's a concern. One or two deaths over the course of decades if not hundreds of years of recorded history on this continent isn't really anything other than an anomoly.
by Conspicuous on 11 April 2012 - 14:04
I am sorry about the people who died, but I don't think wolves are really a significant threat. They are generally really shy of people.
by darylehret on 11 April 2012 - 17:04
The reports I recall about the teacher said she was definitely attacked, not just "found" by them. There are also many people who think livestock guardian dogs are the answer, and some ranchers have lost multiple LGD's to their local wolves.
There may only be two now, and the excuse a few years ago was that there weren't ANY. You can't fairly look at recent historical records, when the wolves were for the most part non-existant, let alone unprotected, in human habitated areas. Once you bring them back, and under protected status into rural populated communities, then what else could you expect, except that they are going to affect the personal lives of people who for generations did not have to deal with these risks?
Anyway, I personally don't see a problem, as ranchers now have the right to protect their livestock, children at bus stops can dial 911 from there cell phones, and what not :-) Even with a very high hunting quota within the state of Montana (of about two thirds the wolf pop.), their numbers still grew from the year previous. So my guess is, that management by hunting alone will eventually be found an insufficient means for population control. I'm thinking they ought to install EID's on their tracking collars, to make the little light blips on their computer screens vanish, ha ha.
by darylehret on 11 April 2012 - 18:04
It's not even about keeping wolf lovers happy, and never was. It's about who can profit from keeping wolf lovers happy.
by Conspicuous on 11 April 2012 - 18:04
Wolves do not deserve the bad rep they have gotten throughout history and all this fear mongering isn't helping matters (the movie The Grey is ridiculous). I can understand the issues with livestock and farmers needing to protect them. But I hardly think going on a witch hunt is the answer. Good lord, that sure seems a bit extreme! EID's???? Really?
Interestingly, according to this study, GSD's have reportedly killed in the US & Canada between 1982-2011 - less than 30 years - 12 people & maimed 54 others. Sounds like they are a much bigger threat, are they not?
http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-study-dog-attacks-and-maimings-merritt-clifton.php
by darylehret on 11 April 2012 - 18:04
The same could go both ways, there are many ridiculous movies about wolves that have little basis in reality, and promote them in a positive light. People shouldn't base their opinions and emotions on what they view in the movies. Simple fact. NO, NOT REALLY!! Can't you read my fecitious writing ;-)
by Conspicuous on 11 April 2012 - 18:04
Ok daryl, I give up...we will have to agree to disagree. :)
by Juno11 on 11 April 2012 - 21:04
Just want to respnd to "Do Canadians care what Americans think?" question. I'm a Canadian and many of us are not at all happy about the tar sands. But the tar sands are not owned only by Canadians. Americans, Chinese and others have interests in it. They want to put a pipeline in to connect the tar sands to Texas to send it there for processing. Some American environmentalists have been protesting the pipeline.
Its not right that the wolves and other species have to pay the price for human degradation of the land.
Juno11
by beetree on 11 April 2012 - 22:04
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