This is a placeholder text
Group text
by duke1965 on 02 February 2012 - 08:02
Tom was anything but mediocre , but not an easy dog for points , thats why ,maybe , becoming worldchampion with Tom was Ronnys biggest achievement so far , and thats what makes Ronny one of the best trainers ever .
by skilaki on 02 February 2012 - 08:02
Thanks duke 1965 :)
by skilaki on 02 February 2012 - 19:02
Can I ask what the other sons, Ellute and Vito are like to work please?
Are they 'points dogs', more handler-easy dogs than Tom? Or not? Seriousness, Prey-drive, biddability, level-headedness etc?
Anyone have any offspring of these two - what are they like?
Feel free to pm, if more appropriate.
If this would be more appropriate as a separate thread, then happy to create a new one, but probably relevant given we are talking about what Tom would bring to a breeding.
Thanks!
Are they 'points dogs', more handler-easy dogs than Tom? Or not? Seriousness, Prey-drive, biddability, level-headedness etc?
Anyone have any offspring of these two - what are they like?
Feel free to pm, if more appropriate.
If this would be more appropriate as a separate thread, then happy to create a new one, but probably relevant given we are talking about what Tom would bring to a breeding.
Thanks!
by Ace952 on 02 February 2012 - 19:02
Some very good questions in which I would like to know the answers/views myself
by Gusmanda on 02 February 2012 - 20:02
I'm still curious to see how linebred pups come out. Understanding of course that the parents have a big influence in the outcome, I'm sure there will be an observable pattern once there are more out there.
by duke1965 on 02 February 2012 - 20:02
gusmanda , if full brothers can be that different , how much of a pattern do you expect 2 or three generations down the line , all outcome depends on the parents used and deviation of genes that we have no influence on
furthermore , most of todays dogs are outcrossed so much , that it will be allmost impossible , to get a pattern of any kind
furthermore , most of todays dogs are outcrossed so much , that it will be allmost impossible , to get a pattern of any kind
by EisenFaust on 03 February 2012 - 01:02
I have an ellute daughter and she is really nice. very upbeat flashy obedience and tons of prey and hunt drive. She is also a very nice size female about 75 pounds. Protection work is very high prey driven with full hard grips and she flies in for the long biite. She bites the suit the same and takes pressure very well. Not dog aggressive but confident. The one thing I see is she has a hard time settling in when in the house loose, she is always up and moving. But if you put her in a crate she will go all day and not make a sound. So all in all I am very very happy with her. I now also have a female offspring of her and very similiar to her mama. Alline Globule.
by destiny4u on 03 February 2012 - 01:02
esen what is she like in her territortial aggression in the yard and house? towards people?
by ramgsd on 03 February 2012 - 15:02
It maybe just me but it seems that some on here (newbies probably) think, when they hear that Eros and Elute are different types of dogs they are seeing this as a bad thing. Not at all. Tom was an incredible dog. It's been said he was perhaps a little harder to train in OB . (although he had 94pts in 1998 and 96pts in 1999 in OB @ WUSV) So a good breeder is going to breed a dog to him that should pass on the traits that may make the offspring easier to train in OB but hopefully not loose the aggression and other positive qualities of the male (BREEDING 101) That seems to be what happened here with the E litter Mohnwiese. Sounds like a very nice job of breeding to me.
Rick
Rick
by skilaki on 03 February 2012 - 17:02
I don't think that Eros and Ellute being different types of dogs are a bad thing at all, I just want to understand HOW they are different. If someone would be kind enough to explain this to me, I sure would appreciate it! ;)
Contact information Disclaimer Privacy Statement Copyright Information Terms of Service Cookie policy ↑ Back to top