Fun with show toons - Page 4

Quote: Did you see that one poor male?  Looked like he had the living shit knocked out of him before he went on the feild.  Ears pinned back, no confidence. If someone knocked the stuffin out of me before I went out to perform I would be rattled, and I consider myself to have exceptional temperment :)

Again, an excuse. The dog is a giant hunk o shit. LOL 

Quote:  I think balance is the key in the world of shepherds.  At this time we have none of it.  Showlines can be too soft or when they do have over the top drive can be to sharp.  Workinglines are getting rediculasly huge (95 pounds is just way to much dog) and can have zero handler sensitivity. 

You got any video of these "over the top drive" showline dogs ? LOL 95 pound fatty that slug across the field, yes. But it is not "way too much dog" LOL you need to re-phrase that "I cannot handle a 95 pound dog" and that would make more sense to someone that is 6'4" and 265. 95 pounds is not to much at all for me. : ) Of course in a few years they are all going to be "too much for me" as I am getting too old and my reaction time is for shit anymore. : (

Quote:  I disagree handler sensitivity is very important to me. That is a slippery slope. It is usually annoying as fuck. The dogs learn that pinning their ears back and cringing like a pussy gets them out of things, as well as running away. Ever wonder HOW the showline became the useless turds they are ?? LOL Handler sensitivity, because people cannot handle a GSD and should have stayed out of the breed. Way too many women breeders desperate to get rid of the GSD and create a stuffed toy dog. They succeeded very nicely in the Dobe, but failed in the GSD.

As you can see the handler sensitive dogs on the video are also stranger sensitive;  just plain wusses!  Yuk!! 

They are useless as working dogs.

I hate handler sensitivity. I hate having to be careful not to yell. Give me an ordinary dog that will generally listen but will recover if I scream at it or give it a correction. I don't want one that is constantly walking on eggshells.

  

VM...I appreciate your thorough post and your insight on the topic...: )

Jeff...
    Let's get this straight, I am not a skimmer. I most usually read the thread in its entirety before commenting...: )   Here is the problem "baby",..you did not answer the question to my satisfaction.;) lol

   I  would appreciate a name of a show line GSD that you felt was a proper example of the breed in type and temperament...: )  Before their body failed them...


      I am making plans on attending the WDA Sieger show in VA in October, will this event have examples of both types of GSD ...show lines and working lines..?? 

I try not to be judgemental but this is very sad to see.  The 1st dog almost had a heartattack as the judge aproached.

Oh good grief, you expect me to have paid attention to that ? That is asking too much. I think his name was alli or alfi. 

If you insist, just go train ringsport with your high drive showline and watch as the dogs body fails him.

I am making plans on attending the WDA Sieger show in VA in October, will this event have examples of both types of GSD ...show lines and working lines..?? 

Unlikely.  I went to the NASS last year and it was all show lines.

Here's a shot of my psychotic ugly working lines dogs who never turn off.....3 intact bitches.
I took it right this minute over my shoulder...no posing.

**edit....I lied! Forgot the old dame is fixed now.

     Jeff,
     Being that good show lines are so few and far between, I would have expected that you might have remembered the name..;)  I mean that is the nicest way...: )

     My male is built very athletically and is a medium build, so I think his body would hold up alright. Temperament wise, I think he is too sharp..... Things would probably get too serious to be much fun...However, I am not the least bit interested in personally participating in ring sport any. So I will take your word for it..I think I attended a ring sport competition last year and I posted a slideshow here on PDB...As hard as some of those dogs hit, I would be surprised that any dogs body could hold up...


    RLHAR, Is t  the show was  thihis not a hishishiishdihsidhsdisdighghghghg his not a Working Dog Association event???...Why would working line dogs not be attending...Is it because of the comformation judging standard???

    VM...Those gals look way too spastic to be inside the house...: )  I love dark sable GSs, I could see a dark sable working line being my next GSD ....They are lovely...: )

I think it depends on the dog. An oversize dog with a brisket three inches below his elbow, a steep croup, no underline, and loose hocks? Yeah, not gonna cut it. But we have plenty of showline dogs out here working as police K9, and hacking it to a ripe old age, too.

There are plenty of athletically built showline dogs out there, they just don't get put up high in the conformation ring very often. It's a shame, but a breeder who knows what they want, and doesn't care what's popular, isn't going to give a crap where a dog places.

Jeff, for the sake of comparison, what's oldest you've successfully trialed one of your breeding stock in FR?

One could argue (and if you know me, you know I will ) that trainablility is a major genentic quality a dog must possess. After all, these dogs do not come out of the womb magically knowing their job. Are we becoming so lazy that we need to breed a dog that trains itself?