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by Sue B on 10 November 2010 - 18:11
Then I suggest you look to the link posted here Dopple, then after you have re-valued the point you have failed to make, do some reassessing and try considering what Missbeeb has so eloquently pointed out.
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/pedigree/516866.html
http://cdn.pedigreedatabase.com/pictures/516866.jpg
Then remember this, a photo no more maketh a dog than a name maketh the man, but both can be offered up for various methods of interpretation !!
Regards
Sue B

by missbeeb on 10 November 2010 - 19:11
Courtesy Dopple, simple courtesy! How would you like a link to a photo of one of your dogs posted for ridicule, albeit by a nobody?
I clearly remember you telling us (not verbatim) that you were anonymous because of previous abuse! I am not surprised.
by A Shepherd on 11 November 2010 - 11:11
Doppleganger the dog you refer to on veneze website

and below the photo on pedi database website

Are these all photos of the same dog? Doppleganger you brought the dog to this debate so You Decide!

and below the photo on pedi database website

Are these all photos of the same dog? Doppleganger you brought the dog to this debate so You Decide!
by jamesfountain98 on 11 November 2010 - 13:11
imbreeding does not cause problems if you are breeding for performance. Reason being, if you imbreed and come across an unwanted product you remove the animal from the gene pool (spaded, neuter, or put them down) When you imbreed for just appearance you often get bad traits that get ignored and because the animal has what is believed to be the correct appearance continue to get bred passing on those extreme traits.
In theory each generation is suppose to be better than your last when using a combination of imbreeding, outcrossing and culling. The show ring changed the goals of what is viewed as success. A person who has never participated in any type of working venue can not judge what makes a good structure for working dogs. You can not have a successful breeding program when your goal is just appearance.
In theory each generation is suppose to be better than your last when using a combination of imbreeding, outcrossing and culling. The show ring changed the goals of what is viewed as success. A person who has never participated in any type of working venue can not judge what makes a good structure for working dogs. You can not have a successful breeding program when your goal is just appearance.
by noddi on 11 November 2010 - 13:11
Exactley A.Shepherd.whoever said photos dont lie,needs to be strung up,AS THEY MOST CERTAINLY DO.All i can say is this,guys please use flattering photos showing the dog standing au naturele,not stacked in an exagerated show stance.To others try to see the animals in the flesh before stating your opinions in print.that includes me too.Carole S.
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