HOW MUCH FOR AN IMPORT DOG?

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by duke1965 on 18 September 2010 - 19:09

max , also the good ones get sold , thats a big problem , and not only to usa
I bred a bitch to gabo mersak , great male with great pedigree , when I was there for breeding the owner said , someone offered him 20000 usd for the dog , but he wasnot gonna sell him , by the time my puppies were born , gabo was in china
tailand and taiwan are buying great dogs , and so on , and you loose these dogs for breeding forever

by Prager on 19 September 2010 - 16:09

You guys worry too much.
The self respected breeder in Czech or Europe will not sell the dog until he has done all the breedings he needs to do with him/her. I know that our dogs are often having deposits on for years. Thus these lines are not being lost. On the other hand,
yes a lot of best dogs are going to Taiwan, China, Hong Kong. It is the economy. USA economy is in a crapper thanks to .....what ever ( I wont go there on this thread) and Far East is flush with money. So there you go. Turn the economy around so that we can stop borrowing from China, and more quality dogs will come to USA again.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com

by duke1965 on 19 September 2010 - 18:09

your right hans there will allways be another dog to sell , but unfortunately thats not where my interest are

by duke1965 on 19 September 2010 - 19:09

I might wanna add to that ,that neither me , or the far east are concerned about $7000 ZVV1 dogs , they buy the best of the best , and thats a loss to any european breeding program , be it east or westlines

by Prager on 19 September 2010 - 22:09

Really what I was talking about when I started started this thread was my frustrations with people who are telling me that I am ripping people off if I charge $5000- $8000 +S&H or what ever I charge for ZVV1/ SchH1/IPO1 or so dog. I was trying to show what all goes into price of a dog. If you add it all up and then figure out that you should get $5 per hour LOL than the dog should cost multiple of what such dogs cost. In my example I have used only tangibles and omitted such esoteric price influences as reputation of the dog, quality of it's pedigree, his record of producing of quality , age, suply and demad,... and so on.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com

by snajper69 on 20 September 2010 - 19:09

I believe owning a dog is a journey and should be from the 8wks old to death of the dog, so I would not pay more than 2k, I don't think most people need adult or trained dogs unless you a breeder, or your work, health requires it. I think that most people that buy adult dog are just lazy and in my opinion do not understand what dog ownership is all about (excluding people that need it for health reason, work, or breeding programs). And if you really in need of finished proven product, because buying older or trained dog is really about buying specific qualities, than the price should not matter. But than what do I know.

Actually let me add to that. If you buying a leaving thing, than the price should not matter at all.

One more thing paying 5-8k for adult dog that meets all or most your requirments is very resonable if you ask me.

by Prager on 21 September 2010 - 19:09

Thank you for your point. I mostly agree . Mainly for myself. Yes 8 weeks to death. But there are many good reasons why people are buying trained dogs. Police, family for security, security companies, handicapped, and I can go on here all day.... I do not know how to bake a bread and I am sure that the experience of baking bread and then eating it is wonderful. But I am not a baker and I buy my bred already baked. Most people in need of trained dogs have no clue how to train dogs same as I do not know how to bake bread.
Take care.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com

by snajper69 on 21 September 2010 - 19:09

I think that's what I said specific reason:

security companies, police = work
handicapped = health
family for security = well once again specifc need even though I don't think dog is great security tool (in the wrong hands), I would say get a gun, or move to a better area, most people that buy a personal protection dog for security can not maintain the dog, so if you ask me is just money blown away.

"Most people in need of trained dogs have no clue how to train dogs same as I do not know how to bake bread.
Take care. "

Yes, but your bread won't hurt anyone else unless it goes bad ;). Plus most people that don't bother to educate themself about dog training wont be able to maintain your trained dog, isn't that so? Most people that I meet with trained dogs the conversation usually goes something like that:

p1: "is that your dog"
p2: "yeah"
p1:"trained?"
p2: "it used to be"

I think you know what I am getting at ;).

by Ace952 on 21 September 2010 - 21:09

p1: "is that your dog"
p2: "yeah"
p1:"trained?"
p2: "it used to be"

LOL!!!!

by Prager on 22 September 2010 - 15:09

Snajper so are you suggesting that there are no missused guns?:)
Well, I'll will make some statements.

1. statistics made in prisons  will consistently make clear that dog is the best deterrent of crime like robbery or burglary and rape and so on. As a matter of fact most criminals are afraid of a dog more then a gun. I know it does not sound right, but it is the truth. Also dog just sleeping on a porch will deter about 95% or more potential burglars.
And only less then 1% of dogs have to actually engage the burglar. So far in my experience with my dogs it was 100% successful.

2. Well personal "protection trained" dog is safer then "untrained protective" dog.

3. I concure. Training  upkeep is important and unfortunately often is not done. However I have trained for hundreds of customers their dogs and sold hundreds of trained dogs to private homes. The buyer always gets safety and handler's course with the dog. I do not know (there may be some...)of any case where a civilian non professional  person which purchased trained dog from me would mishandle one of my dogs and innocent person got bitten. However I know of some cases where people thought that they can train their pups into PP dogs and these pups grew into "monsters".
These, I believe, are arguments for purchasing trained dog.
Prager Hans
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