Jerry Mace/hannibl - Page 3

I don't know, VLA...I can make my most stable dog "light up" on anyone I choose, simply with body language. I could make him go off on an elderly nun with the right actions or words, or, I can "disarm" him just as easily. I do it consciously, and because it's fun sometimes , but someone who has no freaking idea what they're doing, (and I'm just being blunt; I'm not insulting you, Michelle, just stating facts that you already acknowledged) ie, pulling on a leash frantically, yelling,  (kind of like cocking a gun!) can just as easily cause the very behavior they're trying to stop.

And btw, ALL my dogs are "family" dogs imo, as they live just fine with me and my family, including my 2.5yr old son. 

Jenni78..no offense taken on your comment, however, he went into attack mode without any indication from me to do so. I also spoke personally with the two trainers that evaluated him and they both said that should not happen, and they also both saw it for themselves during their own evaluations. I respect their professional expertise.

Bottom line, call me inexperienced... I was, but the point is that Jerry Mace sold us something entirely different that what we received. In addition, he was unwilling to rectify the situation. Poor business from my perspective.

beetree, we bought the dog from Jerry Mace and spoke directly with him several times. 

On another note, anyone breeding/training/selling the real deal... Jerry Mace gives your whole industry a bad name. Not only will we not buy another German Shepard, but we also tell all of our friends about our own experience. Something to keep in mind as you defend this particular dogs behavior. If you are selling good dogs, then you, too should be upset about Jerry and how he does business.

I agree, michelehall, you surely had those conversations, though, was there any in-person evaluation of your skills? He surely needed to better evaluate your skills and his dog, as this match was no good. Tell me, what would have been your reaction if he had told you he didn't think you should be sold a protection dog, because in his opinion you did not have the skill or experience to deal with this type of dog? 

I just noticed a "fatal" error, that shows your inexperience. The GSD breed, is not for everyone, and a protection dog also is not for everyone. IMHO. Not trying to pick on you, but if you don't want a repeat of this situation, try to understand what I'm trying to say.

Also, I just read VLA's post of where you said it was a "friend" who bought a dog from JM that was (sic) SYCHO and aggressive. V L A, you seem to have an agenda.....

beetree, I don't understand...what is the fatal error that you are referring to? And what does IMHO mean? 

Also, you are implying that we are some meek and mild family that can't "handle" a protection dog. We are actually quite opposite. I would have been shocked if Jerry had "evaluated" us and said we couldn't handle a family protection dog, however, if that were the case or even if he would have said Hannibal is not the right dog for you, but I can find another one... then WE WOULDN'T HAVE BOUGHT THE DOG. 

Bottom line...again...the dog that we received was not the dog that Jerry Mace told us he was. He did not have the temperment that Jerry described, nor the obedience (he actually wasn't even house broken), and those things aside, he had one bad hip. Jerry wouldn't even take the dog back himself.

LOL, "fatal" spelling error, the "Shepard" on a German Shepherd Board. Really, the kiss of death. 

IMHO = In My Humble Opinion

I couldn't tell by what you wrote, what kind of evaluation besides a phone call, that you actually went through? Did you physically handle Hannibal before buying him? Doesn't seem clear to me, too, about the hip concern (which is a problem on xray, but not real life performance, right?) , except if you thought you'd like to become a breeder with Hannibal, yourself? I just keep getting more questions than answers everytime!

Not surprised about the housebroken part, either, chances are this was a kennel dog coming into a foreign situation, new family and surroundings. Some things just take a bit of patience, when dealing with a sentient being.

Seriously, it can't all be the dogs fault, there must have been something you can think of that you can claim responsibility? Are you the one who paid ten thousand dollars for this dog? Is that why you feel taken?

The hip concern...would you buy a dog knowing it had one bad hip? Also beetree, I am not blaming Hannibal for anything, actually. He is a dog. I hold Jerry Mace responsible for selling this dog to us. And saying he wasn't even house trained just further demonstrates that he wasn't well behaved. That's actually forgiveable. Nearly attacking a friend in our own home without the command to do so is not. 

It seems you are taking this very personally, and you are going to defend Jerry Mace for whatever reasons you have to do so. I get it, but at least my side of the story is available publicly for potential future clients of Jerry's. They can read and make their own decisions.

If you are reading this and thinking about purchasing a dog from Jerry, please feel free to private message me with any further questions you have regarding our personal experience with Jerry.

I have no idea who JM is, so no, not personal. Just always a dog in trouble. And it usually is not the dog's fault. I did notice you did not answer the personal evaluation question. That would have been a good thing to do.