2012 USCA RESULTS by placements

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by Mr.GSD on 27 May 2012 - 13:05

Anyone have the results of the Longcoat competition? It appears that the SV's attempt to boost entries, gate, and income at their Sieger Shows by adding classes for "coats" has pretty much failed.
Same for U.S. shows?
Fred

by djc on 27 May 2012 - 13:05

From what I understand Fred, is that USCA is saying the long coat entries almost doubled from last year. It appears to me that it is going to take a while before long coats are truly accepted and embraced. Too much stigma for so long to expect anything different, in my opinion. Debby

by SitasMom on 28 May 2012 - 03:05

They are posted, they are listed first, then the stock coats.... see the previous page for more information

by ceddyg on 28 May 2012 - 17:05

DJC, BRynjulf, Sitas Mom,

Your numbers about the other nationals are skewed. Compare apples to apples. all 3 mentioned events only had 8 dogs to fail bitework. not the huge numbers you are mentioning. some scores higher than others but all in all on 8 actually failed the bitework vs. 11 failing at usa seiger show. comparing apples to apples.

85 entries and 11 failed(seiger show
199 entries and 8 failed.{usca nationals,awdf, wda nationals)

ceddy

by susie on 28 May 2012 - 17:05

And how many dogs of the Nationals fit into the breed standard / SG or better / Koered / hips and elbows okay ???

Apples to apples.....

by SitasMom on 28 May 2012 - 17:05

Susie - I just though the post was funny, I din't say anything one way or another about the numbers......

One issue with sieger shows is that the helpers are too easy on the dogs......I wish the same level was expected and given for all dogs.

OH well.

by susie on 28 May 2012 - 18:05

You are right - on the Siegershow the helpers often ARE to easy on the dogs, but on the other hand there are participants of the Nationals, that should never been bred because of lacking the breed standard. Apples to apples... ( and I love good working dogs ).
People are blind on every side - the workingline folks often don´t care about standard, the showline folks often don´t care about working ability.
BOTH are wrong - my personal opinion.

by Kevin Nance on 28 May 2012 - 18:05

Susie,

You are correct in your assessment particularly in the States. However, some do care AND walk the talk.

As a small example, there were five dogs who participated at both the Working Dog Championship and Sieger Show.

Best to you,

Kevin

by brynjulf on 29 May 2012 - 00:05

Thank you Kevin!!!!!!

by zdog on 29 May 2012 - 16:05

every dog I've ever owned was bred to working line dogs bred to koer'd, titled and hip/elbow rated parents.
I find the comparison of those failing bitework at a seiger show to those failing a trial to be laughable. Are you really serious with your comparison?

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