Wobbly hinglegs in a Show Quality Pupppies - Page 2

The dreadful example on the KennelGim video apart,  it really isn't so unusual
for SL dogs who start off when young with weak ligaments affecting their hind
gait, to mature out of this phase;  and then to be able to clear a jump, wall or
scale just fine by the time they are  2.   And it really isn't unknown for WL bred
dogs to start off as juveniles who are loose and 'hocky' either, believe it or not.
At least in the UK, it happens;   maybe ALL those WL dogs in the States have
some magic immunity ?  Lol.

We are actually talking about two things, IMO - on the one hand dogs who have
looseness when young and grow out of it, which may - or sometimes may not -
be a result of  their back legs being disproportionately long or angulated.  On the
other,  some lines where bad movement has been 'excused' all the dogs' life, well
after puppy-hood, [ these can still be seen in Show rings at as much as 3 or 4 years,
not moving correctly behind], and which have been bred on from,  where it's become
worse & worse in the subsequent generations, because the 'breeders' don't have a
clue what they are doing.  I think this latter is what happened with the Gim case - which
is a real pity because some nice dogs have come out of that same kennel.
 

VKGSDs, that sable puppy's conformation is very close to the ideal, very beautiful structure, eye catcher indeed.

Hundmutter, very well said

And here I thought wobbly lages were a requirement of show quality......

Gee, I remember saying almost the same thing in this thread, here....http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/forum.read?mnr=698396-sv-maybe-has-to-rethink-the-structure-of-the-german-shepherd&pagen=2

Thank you for confirming I was correct. It's been awhile since I've read up on gait mechanics, so I was a bit unsure of my information!

Jim, you forgot the sarcasm icon! 

Yes I molded your English words into my Engineering words, lol  

I would be ashamed, utterly ashamed to purchase let alone produce something that looks like the examples in the videos.

That is no longer a functional canine at that point. Hey, whatever sells right?

I would be ashamed, utterly ashamed to purchase let alone produce something that looks like the examples in the videos.
Me too but the problem is people will say "oh it's OK, he will grow out of it."  That may or may not be true, but why encourage this and purchase dogs that move this way?  Why would anyone purchase a dog that can't move correctly and then bet on the dog growing out of it?  People need to stop affirming this by purchasing these dogs so breeders quit getting away with breeding it.

I agree VK. I was watching the replay of the 2012 show and when the BIS judging was taking place for the GSD "Capi" you can see two women run down with banners saying something. They get promptly escorted out by security. Now I understand why some people feel the way they do about shows. I see nothing wrong at all for breeding perfectly normal and not mangled up dogs for work and show purposes but nothing like this.

I would be very happy to have that perfect balance in a dog that can work but still show and look like a V.