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by Blitzen on 09 September 2012 - 13:09
Metamucil will help too. Sprinkle about a tablespoon over the food and feed the dog every 3, 4 hours til it passes. Metamucil puts a slippery gel-like coating on the stool and should encapsulate the cap helping it pass easier.
by Eldee on 09 September 2012 - 15:09
After I finished freaking out, I would wait to see if the pup passes it out. Usually they do, however, vets went to university to get a degree in this kind of stuff, most likely they would know what to do more than us. It all depends on the size of your wallet as to whether you take the pup to the vet. The vet will probably want to take an x ray to see where it is and then depending on the results the vet would decide whether the pup can pass it or not. I think because the dog is only 4 months old, I would go the vet route if it doesn't come out the other end by the next morning.
by GSDsRock on 09 September 2012 - 16:09
Beer bottle caps are often made of zinc alloys. Jenni and Hexe are right, zinc poisoning can develop quickly and is fatal. I knew a poodle that died of zinc poisoning after a 24-hour delay in removing a swallowed zinc alloy penny. The vet assured her that her dog would be fine and not to worry about the delay.
Take the dog as an emergency to a vet with an endoscope. If the bottle cap shows up in the stomach on X ray, it can be removed with the endoscope.
by guddu on 09 September 2012 - 19:09
The penny from 1982 onwards is only 2.5 % Zn, and 97.5 % Copper. Very likely an "old wives" tail :-)
How do you know the poodle did not die of obstruction... having said that, no harm in taking to a vet...but probably unnecessary. If its not out in 48 hrs, I would get an X-ray to check if its still there.
How do you know the poodle did not die of obstruction... having said that, no harm in taking to a vet...but probably unnecessary. If its not out in 48 hrs, I would get an X-ray to check if its still there.
by Conspicuous on 09 September 2012 - 19:09
Thanks everyone!
I can't say for certain that she ate it. I just know it was gone off the table and I can't find it anywhere, so I'm afraid she did.
She is eating drinking and playing like her usual self. She does not look uncomfortable, bloated or in any pain.
I have been checking her poop (She's had 3 today) and nada, but I'll keep an eye on it.
I think I'll keep an eye on her today, and if I don't see anything by tonight I'll call my vet first thing in the Morning and take her for an xray. With any luck, she spit it out somewhere, but at least that way I'll know.
I can't say for certain that she ate it. I just know it was gone off the table and I can't find it anywhere, so I'm afraid she did.
She is eating drinking and playing like her usual self. She does not look uncomfortable, bloated or in any pain.
I have been checking her poop (She's had 3 today) and nada, but I'll keep an eye on it.
I think I'll keep an eye on her today, and if I don't see anything by tonight I'll call my vet first thing in the Morning and take her for an xray. With any luck, she spit it out somewhere, but at least that way I'll know.
by hexe on 09 September 2012 - 19:09
guddu, not an 'old wive's tale'--was published as a case report in a peer-reviewed journal.
by Conspicuous on 09 September 2012 - 19:09
IT WAS UNDER THE COUCH!!!!
Holy, am I ever relived!!! Man, did I get lucky! I did look, but I just checked again with a flashlight. I could barely see it, she spit it out under the couch and it was about up to my elbow back.
Thanks everyone!! Crisis averted, and I hope I never have to post this sort of thing again! WHEW!!!
Holy, am I ever relived!!! Man, did I get lucky! I did look, but I just checked again with a flashlight. I could barely see it, she spit it out under the couch and it was about up to my elbow back.
Thanks everyone!! Crisis averted, and I hope I never have to post this sort of thing again! WHEW!!!
by amysavesjacks on 09 September 2012 - 20:09
Any kind of metals should be addressed right away. Whether it be by forceable passing (like the other poster mentioned feeding cotton balls with cream), or induced vomitting (if it hasnt been too long). Thats one foreign body you dont want to mess with as they can corrode with stomach acids and do the same to the stomach or intestinal walls.
by guddu on 09 September 2012 - 22:09
Hexe:
Yes you are right, Zn poisoning from a penny (2.5%) can kill a dog. One could even envision Copper toxicity (which is 97.5 % in a penny)...but, in medicine one goes with probabilities. Int.Obstruction is the higher probability following ingestion of a foreign body.
When you go to the ED, the doc works with probabilities...and what is most likely to happen, IMHO.
Yes you are right, Zn poisoning from a penny (2.5%) can kill a dog. One could even envision Copper toxicity (which is 97.5 % in a penny)...but, in medicine one goes with probabilities. Int.Obstruction is the higher probability following ingestion of a foreign body.
When you go to the ED, the doc works with probabilities...and what is most likely to happen, IMHO.
by GSDsRock on 09 September 2012 - 23:09
Thank God you found it under the couch! Great suggestion, Jenni.
Old wives' tale my ass, guddu. First, post-1982 pennies are 97.5% zinc, not 97.5% copper. Second, a penny or two is unlikely to obstruct. Instead, they cause rapid and lethal hemolytic anemia from zinc poisoning, which is what happened to the poodle. Some info at:
vetmedicine.about.com/od/toxicology/a/Zinc-Toxicosis-In-Dogs-And-Cats.htm
You can google for lots more info. This is why metal objects should be gotten out of a dog ASAP.
BTW, love the dog in your avatar, guddu. Who is he/she?
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