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Gusmanda

by Gusmanda on 07 September 2012 - 00:09

Anyone have examples? Without knowing the dog, hard to put a "fair" price to it isn't it?.It's my understanding, as others have mentioned, that it was equivalent to the price of a pup.

by JudyK on 07 September 2012 - 00:09

I'm not sure how the stud fee could be linked to the price of the pup.  Some breeders sell their pups for around $1000 and others in excess of $3500 so does the stud owner charge the individual breeder according to what they charge for pups?  Maybe I'm missing something.
Judy

Ace952

by Ace952 on 07 September 2012 - 01:09

Well shouldn't the owner make their stud price reasonable? Wouldn't it make sense to have a stud fee which would encourage more people to use your stud? ie. Wouldn't you get more people wanting to use your stud if the fee was $800 as opposed to say $1300? Isn't the whole point of using a stud to promote the stud dog and show that he produces good pups? The more pups produced = more trialing = shows how good stud produces. If the cost is to the point where it makes breeders go elsewhere, have you & the breed lost a lot more? @Sitasmom....what you list is valid but a part of normal dog care. One would say the owner of the dam has more money being spent. Travel costs to the stud, Dr visits for the mother, puppy care, cost of having to go back if breeding didn't take, etc. Seems as if they understand thos in europe which is why the cost is cheaper and you see a lot of progeny over different combinations.

EuroShepherd

by EuroShepherd on 07 September 2012 - 02:09

I think in the old days it used to be that a stud fee equaled the price of one pup, but that often isn't the case anymore.  There are many dogs whose stud fees are considerably less than the prices of the pups. 
Very few stud owners make any profit from their stud fees.  Those that do probably deserve it for the great amount of time and expense they've put into their dogs for care, training, trialing and campaigning. 

The stud fee should reflect the quality of the dog (including it's titles/health tests) some dogs aren't worth $200 stud fee, while some dogs are deserving of $2,000 stud fee. 

I'd much rather pay $2,000 stud fee for an excellent stud than $200 for a mediocre stud. 
then again, excellence is in the eye of the beholder, lol.

by SitasMom on 07 September 2012 - 02:09


EuroShepherd - you're spot on.

I would be willing to pay more for a VA stud that has the specific bloodlines that I'm looking for....
example - Honey and Zambo  or Honey and XPPO..

Honey x Zambo produced a pup that's VP1 in 2 national sieger shows, to me its well worth the $$$.
Honey x XPPO puppies were born 3 weeks ago and they look very good so far.....again well worth the $$$.

For my companion line, I'm looking for TEMPERAMENT & health and its a bit easier to find a stud that's closer to home and less expensive.

The most difficult thing is finding the studs....... In other countries, access to the stud own's name and address is available, but the AKC won't release such information, they believe its a privacy issue. This makes finding good prospects close to home a real job.


Ace952

by Ace952 on 07 September 2012 - 06:09

But how do you justify price of stud fees in which the owner didn't train? Many of the stud dogs available are usually titled by the orevious owner. Again though...if you charge $2000 for a stud fee do you think it really a benefit to increasing your dogs name as a good producer if u only get 1 or 2 people to use him? You could charge 800-1000 and get 8 or 9.

Ace952

by Ace952 on 07 September 2012 - 06:09

As it was mentioned earlier, europe doesn't nearly as much as we do here in the states so the price to take care of goes out the window. Maybe Europe cares more about seeing progeny and breeding than we do here?

by bcrawford on 07 September 2012 - 06:09

I do not feel paying $1,000 to $1,500 for a well bread titled stud fee is out of the question. Granted, it would have to be the best you could get.

You breed for what you want -- if it costs the extra expense to have what you want is it not worth it?

by workingdogz on 07 September 2012 - 09:09

Do what the big name boys & girls do-
charge 1K and under, and 'line them up'!

Take a good look at how many breedings the 'top'
sport dogs get in this country (owned or handled by
the usual 2-3 people). They breed the males to
whatever shows up with the stud fee Tongue Smile
I'm sure there are many a showline male that
has the same 'criteria' Wink Smile

Judy P

by Judy P on 07 September 2012 - 10:09

I have to agree with Ace in some points, if I was offering stud service on a quality male I would rather charge less and do maybe two or three mpre stud services a year to promote my dog.  As for a stud fee of $2500, those puppies better be born already trained and titled.





 


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