Protection questions - Page 2

 I have very minimal needs, a dog capable of biting in a family protection situation, perhaps a house break in, or a mugging/attack on family member. I have  read on PDB that most likely an untrained dog will not protect...yet I dont need a full fledged personal protection dog per se. Is there a middle way ?
I believe my dog is from good working lines.

A PP dog is not a sport dog. They are aloof and will come for a pet on occasion, when you stand they stand on your side, you walk they walk. If you leave the room without them they pace the room until you come back. Inside the car when you slow down to a stop the watch out the windows on all sides for carjackers. When a stranger walks up they stand on your left and watch the strange person till they exit the area. They are not aggressive to strange people but watchful, not at all friendly. They would suck at sport work, they are not social dogs. There training is much different than Schh ect., they are trained to bite on aggression towards you only. I don't think there is a half way trained dog in PP, sounds like you really want a good working line GSD who has natural protection instinct but not a true PP dog.

Also, the dog will attack a family member to protect you. No family fights when the dog is around, they have only one person they protect. They like everyone in the family but will attack any of them if needed to protect you.This kind of dog is not a pet but a working dog.

LSU mom , If any of my dogs would be like you discribe in all your posts I would shoot him

guddu ,how old is your dog and what is its pedigree

Call your sheriff and police depts where you live, ask where they are buying the dogs from. Go to the provider and spend time with a few of the PP dogs they have for sale. Ask questions. They will aslo test your dogs ability for PP training. Most will train your dog if he passes the test for 2-3 thousand. Dogs they sell often don't have ped, they sell proformance not bloodline.

lol lsu mom and others a good sport dog worth anything should have the ability to do pp also


but yeah most can't these days they SHOULD be able to but they can't


LSU mom is too funny but pp dogs are not all the same, your dog sounds like it has seperation anxiety.

Duke:
  The pedigree is here, thanks
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=1331083

your dog is nice but you have to get it tested by a godo trainer remember most trainers are scum bags and will take your cash and try to make you pay up front and then put too much defense on your dog training it in fear and ruin your dog, in the end you will end up with a dog that would have protected better with natural aggression without any training i bet


Finding a good trainer is the best thing you can do and do not go aon a personal protection forum and ask them. Stick with german shepherd people or sport people and get good advice from them when it comes to finding a good trainer.


People who do sport do not seem to be greedy for money or try to scam you the way a pp trainer will, also many pp trainers will tell you your dog is crap and try to sell you a REALLY crappy dog and say it is a real protection dog. You shoudl hear the storys a local police trainer has told me. Just be really carefull. Always pay lesson by lesson never money up front NEVER SEND YOUR DOG AWAY TO GET TRAINED!! you handle your dog you train your dog.

guddu u wont be satisfied with a dog that just bites on command once u start pp u will want to keep going and going if ur dog is good at it, it turns into an addiction lots of time and work and money but lots of fun



you change bite locations on the jacket and do leg bites you change locations, you change decoys you change scenarios with people hiding out in masks you change all sorts of things and work your dog in every possible nasty situation you can think of. You do hidden sleeve tests and muzzzle work. The whole time you do OB with your dog.

Wow, I own Ando Ethen, Pando Von Haus Frommer son and Akeemi from the best old Czech lines. The bloodline only gives a ability, years of training give skills. Argo was trained for three years to be what he is. It really is crazy how everyone thinks they are the best.....whatever. All police dogs come trained at about three years old and it's the same for PP dogs. They don't have a true handler till about 3. If a dogs trained under 12 months he will attack under fear most of the time, not good. At 18 months is when most start real protection work. Some just look at the bloodline, all they need, winner!