Why do people use prongs and choke chains, or worse..shock collars? - Page 2

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by jamesfountain98 on 30 January 2011 - 14:01

I am a true novice when it comes to dog training, but I laughed when I went to petsmart a few months ago and their trainers told me my 10 month wl female would be in their advance level of training if I chose to participate in their classes.IDepending on the dog a to harsh of a verbal command can be just as abbrassive as a prong collar.  My girl loves enjoys training and at one time or another I've used all those horrific tools you described.

OP, have you ever done any type of bite work, SAR, or any high drive activity. With many of these activities people have bred and then trained to build on top of that drive.  So after genetics and the building on top of that genetic foundation it often takes a little more than positive reinforcement to control the compulsion

Wolfiesmom

by Wolfiesmom on 30 January 2011 - 15:01

I use a prong collar on my dog for my own piece of mind. I am a very small person, and my dog is much stronger than I am. I live in a very populated area, and the places that I walk him are always high traffic areas. He heels along with me very nicely, always has, but he has a lot of drive. If he ever decided that he had to chase something, he could easily get away from me, and get hit by a car. Some people might get the attitude that I should have enough control over my dog that he would stop and come back when I called him. I do. I am also a long time dog owner that knows, sometimes these dogs, get something in their heads and they don't listen right away. It only takes a few seconds to dart out into traffic. So far, the prong collar hasn't been put to the test, but it's there just in case. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

DebiSue

by DebiSue on 30 January 2011 - 19:01

Echo "self corrects" on the prong...I call it "power steerintg".  Without it, she will drag a grown man across the floor to get what she wants.  It helps remind her where "fuss" is.
Jeff, you slay me.
Deb

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 30 January 2011 - 20:01


         Jenn.....

              Your first post made me laugh....lol....I agree with you.......: )


 
 

GSDPACK

by GSDPACK on 30 January 2011 - 22:01

Wow... hahahaaaa...ha... my comment for today.

I guess my dog must look soo tortured on the field. When I have the prong, the ecollar, flat collar and harness on him... But next time he does B&H and he is in the helpers face..I will try to just kinda let him go and bring a steak with me... I am curious how it goes. Anyt takers? My helper migh not be OK with this.

Happy training!


by alaman on 30 January 2011 - 22:01

Prongs are unnecessary. never used  one and have had some very tough dogs.

Electric collars are a training tool if used correctly and a dog should be weaned off one as soon as possible. One also needs to be used in conjucttion with a dog that has been trained to recognize authority through obedience training.

Ruger1

by Ruger1 on 30 January 2011 - 23:01


      Them are fightin words........


                  Sorry, but I could not resist. This should at least be interesting though.....: )

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 31 January 2011 - 00:01

 Well, there you have it everyone. Prongs are unnecessary. And this is a fact, as told by someone who has had "some very tough dogs." 

E collars are peachy, though. 

GSDPACK

by GSDPACK on 31 January 2011 - 00:01

Jenni...I think I will throw them all away....and run around with doggie cookies. I am sold on this idea!




by frankm205 on 31 January 2011 - 00:01

 Geez I have to throw away my pinch collars and get an electric one now 





 


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