Fun with show toons - Page 13

Nothing as fun as a dog who gets into your face on the hold and bark.   What a helper test, better know it is coming.

Quote: Not only that, they have huge breeding fees and their pups are sold for huge amounts  to unsuspecting people when they are worth no more than pet price.  It's like fraud.

It is fraud, both morally and ethically. You are selling some one a German Shepherd and it just simply is not.

Quote:  There is a good reason experienced homes are required for WL's, without proper training they become nothing short of neurotic.

So, properly train them. LOL I have no idea what dogs/lines you have experience with, but first off, if you need a dog with a switch, go to the toy section and get one. They may require batteries. HA HA Ok, lets look at this in a different manner, people want a German Shepherd, but not really. It is supposed to be a working dog. Maybe the reality is that the German Shepherd is just not the breed for a lot of people. I guess no one thought of that. NO NO Jeff, I HAVE TO HAVE A GERMAN SHEPHERD ! ! !  HOW DARE YOU ! ! ! !  I have about 10 more years and then I am probably done. I will just not be able to deal with chasing pups around. LOL Maybe not, but I am at least realistic enough to know that when it gets to the point where I cannot deal with them, I will be done with the breed. I will NOT sacrifice the breed to satisfy some selfish urge to have a German Shepherd. Probably get a nice gold fish. Maybe some of you should consider that as well. : P

I know this thread is primarily about working ability, but I'm hoping someone can help me satisfy my curiosity about something. I've watched tapes of the (showline) dogs gaiting in the Sieger show, and would like to be able to analyze the gait, but the legs of the dogs are moving far too quickly. I'd love to see such a performance in slow motion. Can anyone give me a link showing a VA dog gaiting in slow motion?  It doesn't HAVE to be from the Sieger, and it would be great if the tape focused just on the one dog, so the viewer can see very clearly what the legs are doing without other dogs getting in the way.

And yes, I've seen the video of Dingo gaiting many, many times. I'd love to see a similar video of one of today's showlines. I think we would see something quite different.

Abby, I agree with you 100% about showline anatomy. Whenever I see a dog whose structure just makes me cringe, it is ALWAYS a showline. (Resists temptation to delve into her infamous 'Ugly Dog' picture file)  These freakish looking dogs are most often advertised in the ads here, and contain ridiculous come-ons, like "Future Sieger", or "Son of VA xxxxxxx", or even (God help us!) " 100% correct anatomie", when the structure is anything BUT! (Yes, I kow how to spell 'anatomy, but spelling isn't the strong point of the people who post these ridiculous ads...) 

And will someone PLEASE tell the showline folk that the standard calls for the feet to travel as close to the ground as possible'???  I am sick to death of seeing this sort of thing!

 


1) It's supposed to be a DOG, not a hackney horse!
2) Yes, a tight leash DOES exaggerate the lifting of the paw and front leg. but I have seen many pictures of dogs gaiting, and you do not see this sort of exagerated movement with working lines, or with historic VA dogs. THIS IS SOMETHING NEW, and it is NOT CORRECT t
 
Here's the FCI standard for gait : The German Shepherd Dog is a trotting dog.  The limbs must be so coordinated in length and angulation that, without noticeable alteration of the topline, the rear legs can propel to the body while the forelegs extend to an equal distance.  Any tendency to overangulation of the hindquarters reduces the firmness and endurance, and consequently the working ability.  Correct body proportions and angulations result in a flat over the ground, far reaching, ground covering gait giving the impression of an effortless propulsion.   The head pushed forward and the tail slightly raised result in an even, effortless trot showing a gently curved, uninterrupted upper line from the tips of the ears, over neck and back to the tip of the tail. 

As any equestrian will tell you, the increase in length of stride comes from the opening of the shoulder joint, and not from the elbow, as with the above picture.  Here's Sirko von der Jahnhohe showing lovely extension of stride at the trot, without lifting the front legs excessively. And that lead looks pretty darn tight, too!

Look how deeply ingrained the "gait" is in peoples brain. LOL Has nothing to do with nothing. I still look at that shit too. goofy, right ?

While searching for a GSD gaiting in slow motion video I came across this one

I learned a lot from this one

Isn't this a show GSD with good bite work !! Sunsilver .... here you can see beautiful gaiting in slow motion too. And Ruger 1 ... I think he is in the States.

Nice videos Ibrahim, but not quite what I was looking for. The only slow motion section that shows the trot is the one with the bitework, and since the handler was holding the dog back, it doesn't give a good picture of the dog's gait.

Nice bitework from that showline! He is one BIG son-of-a-gun, and I would not want to have to be the one responsible for 'catching' him during the bite!


BTW, I think you have the wrong link posted for the first video. All the shots in that one are stills. There are no action shots at all. 

"or even (God help us!) " 100% correct anatomie", when the structure is anything BUT! (Yes, I kow how to spell 'anatomy, but spelling isn't the strong point of the people who post these ridiculous ads...)"

You apparently don't know how to spell "anatomy" in German - they spell it "anatomie."