Abady Dog Food - Page 1

I see a lot of you support this food and I wonder why? Here is a list of ingredients I found that it contains. I think for the money they are charging for this food, it shouldn't contain the ingredeints that it does contain. Not arguring here... Please do correct me if I am wrong. I look for good foods and it's hard to find much information on this brand. I took it from Innova's sight so correct it if it's wrong. Abady Classic Adult Canine Maintenance Ingredient Name 1. Poultry By-Product Meal 2. Corn Meal 3. Menhaden Fish Meal 4. Kibbled Corn 5. Corn Oil 6. Beef Fat 7. Rice 8. Beef Fat 9. Meat Meal/Meat & Bone Meal 10. Salt 11. Flaxseed Oil 12. Lamb Meal 13. Beef Liver 14. Whey Protein Concentrate 15. Inositol 16. Para-Aminobenzoic Acid 17. Vitamins/Minerals Birdy...

Birdy, I have sent you an e-mail and would love to talk further. The CLASSIC (dry meal) is actually the cheapest of the fomrula. The "Maintenance and Stress" is generally higher in price -- Dr. Bob also makes (extruded) kibble now also, in Beef and other formulae. (and some specialty Canned products) We feed the Raw Meat mix (complete to adults) and Growth Formula for puppies) - but use only the meat for puppies until 7 months of age - then 50/50 with the Puppy Maintenance and Stress. There is lots of literature that you can get directly from Abady In Poughkepsie N.Y. Abady is not processed like other foods. (Everything is not thrown into the same pot and cooked the same amount of time so that nutrients are lost to those foods which do not require extensive heat while other ingredients remain undercooded. Also, when the ingredient is Chicken - as in the Raw mixture - it is not Diseased Chicken that is not good for any other use, so it goes into dog food-- it is healthy - (more expensive) chicken. Same with ingredients like Corn -- other companies would use corn that is not fit for the cows -- not so with Abady. They are quality ingredients - The dogs eat less, poop less, don't have to drink gallons of water to process the feeds (more of course with the meals than the meats -- and we have had no complaints in over 20 years of use -- P.S. There are some dogs who can be allergic to this food - as with any other food - Some that cannot eat the "meal" can eat the raw mixtures or the kibble. Some dogs that have been on a lower quality food for years, are not able to convert effectively to a "richer" food. it's variable. But whenever possible, I try to get reasonable people to "try one box" and see how the dog does - I'd rather pay more at the front end -- for the food - then pay the vet at the other end -- (when the other end of the dog isn't working right !!! e-mail me anytime-we can talk further. (My 7 year old bitch had 16 puppies while eating Abady - I think she would not have survived raising the 11 that lived had she not been on ABADY. There are also people making connections between ABADY and fertility - and we know the breed can be plagued with those problems too !!

well i can tell u first that the ingredients are listed by weight BEFORE processing takes place, so therefore, poulty, which is mostly water, loses it's place in line. Corn meal would defineately be the real first ingredient. second, the word "by-product" scares many people, however, all commercial dog food are made from by-products. farmers don't raise lambs specifically for canine consumption, no, they are raised for humans & whatever we do not use, termed "by-product" is not wasted, it is in your pet's food. thus, lamb & rice is NOT a good choice for a large breed puppy, as the lamb that is used is mostly skeletal & contains more calcium than large breeds require, leading to bone abnormalities & joint problems. I also would question on this food why beef fat is listed twice & what exactly is the meat used in ingredient # 9...

lioness - Birdy is listing the ingredients for the Classic ADULT - not the Growing Puppy Formula which is different again - Abady was one of the first to make specific formula for different uses - He has Stud Dog Formula, Weaning Formula, Pregnant and Gestation formula, Large Breed Puppy - Regular Puppy, TOY BREEDS -- OLD DOG formula -- they are all different. Our orthopedic problems pretty much disappeared when we started raising puppies on the RAW FOOD designed for large breeds -- No more PANO - for one thing. and better development - ligimentation etc. etc. - and I believe better hips. In one of his ad's ABADY has the permission of the FIDELCO Guide Dog foundation to say thay use of his food over a 25-30 year period has improved the hip quality - Don't quote me on that - but it's in the ad, in same or different words. BY-PRODUCTS - Depending on who's label you are reading -- Chicken by-products for example - can be BEAKS AND FEET -- I don't believe that is the case with Mr. Abady's (aka Dr. Bob's) food. He would probably pitch a fit if I actually called him that !! There are interesting articles by or about him on the internet - one on his Bouvieas in the 70's - Just google him. He is a fascinating individual. Another arm of the organization is NUTRA-VET -- vitamins for everything from Finches to Guinea Pigs. I had to STOP giving it to my Guinea pigs - they were having litters of 5 - 7 - where 2 - 3 is normal !!! The Finches had clutches of 5-6 babies instead of 2-3. Unhealthy animals cannot produce eggs and develop healthy offspring - no matter what kind we're talking about. So I have to say that all of my animals have been healthier on Abady products. To each his own -- BIG RED is what ? $14.00 for something like 50 pounds - There's a reason for that, ya know ??

Pineridge, Is there a site where I can find Abady's ingredients? I've looked everywhere but can't find it. I would like to see the actual ingredients, just cuz I'm that way. My major in college was nutrition (mostly livestock but we had to do all animals for compairson.) Thanks and thanks for the information as I would hope folks that are speaking of this food is looking at better ingredients. I'm also puzzled by your mentioning the fertility issue makes me really NEED to see the ingredients. Lioness, you are correct, full meat does render to near nothing after the water is removed and corn would then be the first ingredient. Birdy...

Hi Birdy, Try waggintails.com and surf around the site. There are are links for most major brands of dog food, Abady is one of them. All the nutritional information is listed.

When you get to the Waggintails homepage, go to the top and click on "dog products", then type Abady in the next search box and you see all the products with the nutritional information.

since i have been raised by advertisements & television commercials, i tend to raise my eyebrows at the statement that is made: our dogs were fed abady dog food for many generations & this is why the dogs have not a problem with pano- in fact, this statement does make my doubts grow concerning this food! there is absolutely no way this claim could be proved true or false! many other factors play into this equation, & there is no control group, how could there be? even siblings/littermates differ in genetic makeup. this seems to be the same type of propaganda as "feeding knox geletin to a gsd pup will make its ears stand"- who's to know that the pup's ears were not already going to stand? just an example, as was my tirad on lamb & rice for large breed pups (i do know several gsd breeders who raise pups on lamb & rice) also, beaks & feet are not something a polite person would dine on, so yes, this is put into the dog food mix. what is so wrong with beaks & feet? here is where i have a problem with RAW people (no offense pineridge)- they say, ew, beaks & feet, by-products, yuck, our dogs are all natural carnivores, they don't eat such filth! & they never stop to think that beaks & feet are perfectly natural "all-natural" the magic selling words & i'm sure if i filmed a dead buzzard long enough, some feral dog would gladly dispose of its beak & feet & head & neck & whatever else it could get its teeth on however, i do commend birdy on not simply stopping at our answers, but putting the time into researching firsthand! obviously everyone has an opinion & i'm glad we can all share them on this messageboard!

Hi , All. I would like to know how many of you that feed Abady dog food , have ever been to Mr Abady's factory where his food is processed.I have , and I also used to feed it. I was taken in by all the hipe.First of all it's like feeding your dogs dirt. And well over priced. If you can't afford his normal boxed food . He makes a kibbel. Now I know and met Mr Abady many times and have been there to pick up food.He himself told me the kibbel is not that good that his ground up food is better. He explaind that when you heat the kibble like they do , the heat destroys many of the nutrients. I do agree with this.When I fed this food to my dogs they had a very hard time getting used to it ,plus the explosive runs they had drove me crazy.Not to mention how over priced it is.The food has lots of fish oil in it. So you have to keep turning the box over and over. Or all the fish oil settles at the bottom of the box and the middle and top of the food is dry. My dogs lost wieght and shed like no tomorrow.If you feed his over priced meat. Then I want to tell you what I saw when he recieved a shippment of meat while I was there.It was mid summer , 95 degrees, a opend truck backs up, with a large number of rusted threw and threw steel 55 gallon drums filled with fly coverd stinky heated from the days sun ,MEAT.Now I know some will say, well a wolf or a fox will eat dead animals filled with flys and magits. I agree. But when I,m told he uses top quality beef and orgens. (NOT).I use fresh meat and tripe from a farmer who cuts everything up fresh and freezes it as soon as it is ground. He also mixes it the way I want.Now , If you take Abady meat and put it next to the meat I feed, The first thing you notice is the color. My meat is freash looking and the color is nice blood red. Abady's meat is pale pink and dry. Now he'll say there's no water in his meat.And that others add water for wieght. B.S. When the meat I use thaws out it looks like meat with blood from a butcher.Not like it has shavings in it. Mr. Abady himself is a very intelligent man.But that's no reason to spend the kind of money he is asking for his food. I think a 48 lb box is as much as $60 or $70 , And he's tough to get any kind of a deal.If you have a kennel with maney dogs, you'll go broke. Plus the dogs won't look any better on his food then a much cheaper brand.I used to feed some of the so called best foods out there. My dogs never looked and acted better then they do now. And now for the last 3 years I've been feedind a food I buy from Sam's club. Nutra care. 26% pro, 16 or 18 % fat.A 50 lb bag cost me $13. I add my meat and 2 times a week I use jack mackrell.Plus I add some supplements.Fresh water always, and worm them every 2 months wether they need it or not.Well I hope I've given some of you something to think about.We all have to make are own minds up. But ask questions first and do your homework .Not all things are what they seem to be.

TOPDOG - I have been unavailable and didn't get to continue this discussion - BIRDY - why did you not take me up on my offer to e-mail me privately ?? TD - I have used this food exclusively for over 20 years -- I would not use anything else -- for the reasons stated above and more -- I know people in other breeds who had lots of problems - coat/skin, fertility - all solved handily by changing food - There is nothing wrong with the "dirt" food -- It is better as it does not increase in volume as much as extruded foods - and IT SHOULD BE FED WET -- NOT DRY !! Also, digestive troubles can come from switching too fast - as you must know -- and it's true that some dogs, not raised on this food, cannot adjust no matter what - due to their already poor digestive systems. BIRDY -- Call ABADY and get an appointment to speak to Mr. Ababy -- He's generally willing to talk to reasonable people, who want to learn, about his food. TD - I said it before, and I'll say it again- I firmly believe that my bitch would have died and so her puppies, had she not been on ABADY when she carried and whelped 16 puppies at age 7 !! She delivered 15 of them by herself, and within 6 hours of her C section, she was back home in the whelping box feeding her litter !! I drive almost 40 miles EACH WAY to buy this food - and I gladly do so -- I have raised puppies that I have kept exclusively on the FROZEN GROWTH FORMULA and they have not suffered from any RUST -- and I have never turned over a box of the dry food because of the fish oil !!! It's not meant to be kept for 3 months, ya know ? It has no "chemical" preservatives. AND.... lastly.....I have 1 14 year and 3 month bitch who has never had anything in her mouth other than ABADY FROZEN, DIRT, and the occasional pizza crust - and she is probably alive today BECAUSE she's been on a great food for 14 years !!! THE END !!