by jc76005 on 23 June 2021 - 14:06
We are looking to add a WGSL Female, preferably titled from Europe. We are a boutique long coat GSD breeder in the US and were wondering who could help us achieve this.
by Hundmutter on 25 June 2021 - 09:06
So, Johan, Wiki's litter that you advertised a fortnight or so ago, this is your first brood bitch and you are looking for a second ? Or have you been breeding for some time but only just discovered PDB ?
I note Wiki has her BH and has been graded Very Promising. You don't tell us a whole lot else on PDB or in your Classified; no hips or elbows results, no DM ...and no Report. She's almost 2 years old, so you ought to have some of that important stuff done already.
And you advertise one litter and say prices of pups in it will depend on their quality (you also say pedigree, but as they're the product of one litter I'll just ignore that, shall I, since their pedigree will be the same ?) - but you do not give customers any indication of the range of these varied prices you'll be asking.
You are apparently breeding (intending to breed ?) longcoats deliberately; but promote the above litter based on its (eventual) abilities as all-round GSDs capable of what you are still calling Schutzhund.
BTW there are both good and bad views stored on PDB of buying from Kennel Gim, where your stud used hails from.
Hmmmm. Think I might pass on giving you any new contacts over this side of the Pond. Someone else might suggest someone.
by Rik on 25 June 2021 - 11:06
by Hundmutter on 26 June 2021 - 03:06
by Rik on 26 June 2021 - 15:06
to the original poster, if you check the classifieds, there are long coat breeders.
some especially attractive ads and dogs/breeders seem to be in Serbia. check them out.
by Koots on 27 June 2021 - 22:06
by jc76005 on 28 June 2021 - 10:06
This was my first time posting on PDB, but I have been doing research here quite a bit. In the US, we have long coat dogs who also participate in the sport of Schutzhund and many of them are titled as well for show and work.
I am not sure why you are so attacking in your email. We love our German Shepherds and the breed and are doing a lot to educate ourselves on bettering ther breed.
We didn't stud directly with the GIm kennel, but with a Gim stud owner in the US.
Hope you are having a good day.
by Hundmutter on 28 June 2021 - 11:06
The idea that someone so obviously novice can think they are 'bettering the breed' is frankly laughable.
Particularly when setting themself up as a 'boutique' breeder !
Its an insult to breeders who have put in the hard yards.
Quite what is the 'luxury' end of the GSD puppy market escapes me, but I strongly suspect its not you, mate.
Even if you could not call back your classified ad to add HD/ED etc, you could have placed these on your pedigree page for Wiki here on PDB, which you haven't yet bothered to do, even though it is fairly recent. And like health tests ought to be at the forefront of your mind. That tells me health issues are not very important to you in breeding.
Wiki will be 2 years old next month. So if pups are on the ground now, plus a couple of months gestation, you mated her too young. That's not a great start in bettering the breed.
You don't seem to set a lot of store by qualifications etc, either, so how is that going to show how better than average your pups might turn out ?
Of course longcoats can participate, but do you need to aim to breed them, any more than any of the other money-grubbing people who put coat genetics to the top of their priorities ? We know they sell.
by jc76005 on 28 June 2021 - 12:06
Your comments are not constructive or true in any way - you know nothing about me or my dogs and my family so keep your insults to yourself.
Wiki's hips and Elbow results are on her pedigree as well.
I have several breeders and trainers as mentors that I work with and I buy from the best pedigrees, health tests ALL my dogs, and strive for the best breeding outcomes.
If you read the classified you will realize pups are only due late July - she was not bred early at all!! Stop assuming and beating other people in what is suppose to be a helpful, friendly forum.
Shut up and leave me alone. You are unprofessional and rude in every way.
by Hundmutter on 28 June 2021 - 14:06
You ASKED me to explain why my first post was hostile. I told you why.
I haven't insulted your family. You can take my comments as you will ... but I notice you've updated your ad today.
Johan, this is just my opinion (although I know your OP troubled some others here as much as it did me); you don't have to take any notice of my opinion, that is your prerogative; but it's an opinion formed from knowing and loving the GSD breed for over 50 years, seeing what goes on in the interest of sales, and becoming very pee'd off with people who think they should be able to just breed as they like, with no real feeling for the breed's needs or development. Far too many such around already, without encouraging another.
Of course that gets denied when an advertiser is pulled up on it, I don't expect anything else.
I am helpfulness itself to a lot of other people who post here.
No axe to grind either; am not and never have been a breeder myself, so its not me getting my toes trodden on, or income affected.