This was one of the best sieger shows organized, but why all of a sudden, all fair and no politics as what many thinks, again a game plan, and this time to improve the reputation. In hyd a gun was shot from ajit's shoulders, last yr from kapil's shoulders and this yr all went fair and as expected isint this amazing. But tell me 1 thing, why did the Judge changed at the last moment, may be he was going to promote Bob over the other bad dogs in front of him, then how to make your own doga a double sieger and how to promote a frnds dog, just by some manipulations. Also heard that mohanty resigned, this is a great news and I guess a step forward to improve this breed as he never contributed anything being a joint sectary of the GSDCI. I am sure now Azim will be promoted to that role. we all will be happy to see If Sanjay desai resigne for step forward to imorove breed standerd,which he will never.Nexttime carefull Ajit, D Krish and Bhinder not to get Instiget by these people. All will have appreciated if the time we spent in seeing the tribal people dance was spent on some seminar or a talk from the judges for the improvement of the breed. But who cares, GSDCI invest money in usless things then to educate people. The good thing was atleast during the show no commitee member was allowed inside the ring and which made a lot of diff. I hope this continues and some fair things happen or else we will only be left importing dogs rather then breeding our own stock.

Yet another brilliant performance by this great Quantum vom Arminius son ! Congratulations.

Congratulations to the owner of the Indian Sieger.Powerful Macho male.

Congratulation .

Regards
Daksh

Walmar, whoever you are your choice of names as examples to follow are laughable. If you thought we are not united you are sadly mistaken. Looks like you cut and pasted the comments on Igor's and Quattro's page.

I dont know how many hundred thousand pups are born in the the SV each year but to pick a youth sieger from the nest does take a bit of luck like looking for a needle in the haystack and then having a judge who happens to like that particular type on that particular day!

Yes I think Quattro is also an exceptional dog but you do not know Sanjay Desai nor do you know some of the others you have named. It shows you are one of those named below as your tru identity, and I have a bloody good idea who you are, trying to put your name in lights.

Anymore rubbish you want to write just leave Vijay Singh's name out of it. Most of us miss him sorely and we are poorer without him.

so it's clear now this dog came to india on rent basis,is'nt it?now x owner realized it's too late fool people or may be he want's his people to grab the oppurtunity of this year with their dog?you scracth my back and i will scracth your's.is't ploy to please people from the commitee?

We are so lucky that Igor is still in Germany ...
I just looked over him in 2008 but that mistake i will not make in 2009 and 2010
This male has everything to bring the breed a specialy over his inbreed Fanto Hirschel he is able to correkt the fronts and behind angelations
We need this kind of breed in our dogs
His Sire line is one of mine favoriet lines and his sire is the ever best producer that there is and ever will be
The mother line is so solid that i want to tell the breeders in Germany and the rest of europe to not loose the opportunitie to juse Igor on there females
I have seen progency from this male and they are really so good
This dog has everything looks and a faboulus carakter
Hope he stays in Germany so that i can juse him on some of mine top females
Ron and Barbara
www.mirzslot.com

Igor is a typical example of compact as well as sound dog....
sg40 to v9 a great leap...
from this it is evident that males mature even after 24months...
he is just 4 years & can produce sound offsprings for the future[even in India too :)]...

he will get better ranking as the n.o. of progeny increases..

more than all i liked the handler(mr.walter)

all the best for forth coming shows..(2010 ISS,BSZS)

congrtulations for getting V9 place at sieger show in germany

A GOOD DOG IS ALWAYS A GOOD DOG & ALWAYS REMAINS A GOOD DOG.

IGOR is a good dog thats why everyones appreciate irrespective who owns it.

Very few people like Mr. Bhinder, Mr. Iqbal Singh Dhillon, Late Mr. Vijay Singh, Mr. Abdullah Noori, Mr. Bejoy Varghese, Mr. K. Ramesh, Mr. Venkatesh, Mrs. Kalakrishna, Mr. Guruprasad are the person who are the real GSD enthsiasts in India. These are the people who has given something to the new comers, youngsters or show enthusiasts to cheer in India.

I salute these people for the real contribution in INDIA.

Mr. Sanjay Desai - Initially he was also like these people but as the time passed on, due to total commercial point of view he spoiled the GSD Game. He is doing everything to fulfill his ego. Fixing the show, giving useless puppies out of Dogmatix, charging too high stud fees to the new comers (as the experienced never approach hims) etc.

Mr. Desai - This is the time to come together (United - We Conquer) to do all those things which will make positive impact for the future of the GSD Game in INDIA.

No Single Person can bring positive change, it is a team work.

HOPING TO MAKE A POSITIVE BEGINNINGS IN MINDS OF ALL REAL GSD ENTHUSIASTS

I think Mr.Sanjay Desai and his lickers gone mad.It show's how obnoxious weed he is.In India he manupulats every show,now he can do fixing in Germany too.It is not the good breeding or showing,it is matter of how good fixer you are.No dought Igor is one of the best import in India at the movement but that doesn't meen we never had good imports before.No matter how much he wins,he will be the same obnoxious person in peoples mind.The more his dogs win,the more kwality of Indian dogs will degrade,and pepole will lose the interest.Therefore Mr.Matthew stop being licker and grow up,and give me an honest answer Igor deserve his place.Neither he will grow nor he will allow you to grow,because Mr.Desai is the BIGEST BEGAR ON EARTH.

Well said walmer,



Congratulation to Helmut Koeing for the win as the dog was on his name in Germany. We will congratulate him when Mr sanjay show the dog on his name and buy the dog instead of renting it. Many more, Ocean, Justin etc I guess they are spoiling the name of INDIA and there is no big deal as many more rich people can do that . he should be ashamed of himself. At least People like binder have courage to show the dog on his name, no matter if that was not the correct day for him.

I was more excited to know about the BI bred by dogmatix, especially the female as she was very prospective and could have been shown. There must be some thinking behind that as well as said my Mr mathaus.

Anyways Visum it is one and the same thing, buy a expensive rated dog or spend huge money to make a ordinary dog expensive and rated. It is just the matter of taste, some people like expensive things and some want to show that they have something expensive unnecessarily

If SG1 can be beaten by SG40 of the same year, then probably we should doubt the judging in Germany. It was a horrible decision to put back Panjo behind Igor they both are class apart

Anyways on the same lines, Congratulations to Mr shergill for making an SG1 that is more then anything as the dog was bought as a puppy so Mr mathaus we should call that a vision and not what you call and whom you call as visionary, they are just rich but empty in head. And you should at this age STOP licking and think. It does not suit you

Every dog is beautiful only owners create problems.

Mathaus & Visum - Just one question
WHO IS HAVING BETTER KNOWLEDGE & VISION between the following two ?

A] Mr. Lucky Shergill - A Youngster who is in the GSD erena for not more than 2-3 years & still having a dog titled SG1 Quattro. He took Quattro as a pup where the future cannot be assessed perfectly.

or

B] Mr. Sanjay Desai & Team - He is very knowledgeable & experienced in GSD arena and having experience for more than 15 years & then having V9 dog. He took a SG 40, a dog at this age can show all his character & future can be assessed.

Congratulations for big win in sieger show to the breeder & trainer of this beautiful dog (Doubtful who is the real owner).

Mathaus u said 'Lesson to the younger generation of Indian GSD lovers- you may not need big money for top honours' - so can we conclude that u & Mr. Owner is going to give the top dogs from your kennel to every youngster of India at stud or a good quality puppy, free of cost (u people can't, as every one knows u r those people who cheat the youngsters b'coz they r easy pray for big hunter like u & owner of this
dog) or atleast at very low cost which the youngsters can afford.

Visum - Better not to talk about the person who brought V10 or V7 to India. He is the real GSD lover in India who let his dog used by one & all at very affordable price. He is the real one who is responsible for uplifting the INDIAN GSD GAME.

Congratulations M/s Sanjay Desai, Sanjit Mohanty & Helmut Konig. What a show for Igor ! He was fantastic with his bite work on Friday & superb in the ring yesterday.This boy will go a long way. All the best.

Igor what a show. A very planned and well executed plan from SG 40 to V9. This is brains & foresight at its best. Lesson to the younger generation of Indian GSD lovers- you may not need big money for top honours. You just need that eye and so sharpen that skill. Sanjay and Bob all the best to you both and convey the same to Mr. Helmut Konig.

Congrates derserve the place he got .

Regards
Daksh

Congratulations to you and your wife on the V9, Sanjay. Igor earned it fair and square. Call me when you get in at Chennai.

True Hero Igor Rommelsbach! World V9.. Spectacular!!!

The team Proved teir metal on the world stage! Hats off, my respects to all involved! Superior Foresight, planning and most importantly exectution!

Not merely buying a V10 or V7 or V13 but an Sg40 and making him 2times in a row top V... vision knowladge and true understanding of the game! UNPRECENTED PERFORMANCE!

KNOWLADGE and Stratergy over Money and Muscel! jAI ho!

jAI HO! jAI HO! JAI HO!

Fantastic bitework yesterday. Is in top condition.Looks certain to better his placement at Ulm. All the best.

Congratulations for Good Bite Work to Igor
Congratulations to Mr. Helmut & Sanjay Desai.

Best luck for Today & tommarow

Very god bite work Igor. Congratulation Mr Helmut

All the best for tomorrow and day after.

regards,
Jayesh

It is an impossible to anyone to compeit with this dog,not even Yako von noort or anybody.He will be the Indian seiger.Sure he will be top first 15 dogs in Germany.

hello all ,

Congrts to the owner for winning V6 under R meyer that too in a good compitition against privious sieger ...his son SG4 bojan & last year SG3 paul (odin's son)& few other good dogs.


winnings at this movement of time really matters i guess, that too under the same judge who will be judging there at the sieger show.



regards
ram

i'l wont say one my favourite dog came to india...he is my fav..i haven't seen anything better came to India.

Igor is one of the best dog to come to INDIA and i wish that he now become the double sieger as there is no other dog to stand next to him in India. Gone are the days of Bob and Quando is no more.

I also do not see any other good dog who have proven his capabilities in future to come to INDIA.

I wish him all luck for the German Sieger Show. Wish he turn in the Top 5 position this yr.

All the best.

In other words,
Igor is sikandar and SD is fukinder as he lost all this respect after the Sieger show

jo jeetah wo hi sikandar
jo haara wo hi fuckinder

titbit waht happend to you i have read all ur privious comments on this dog u never appreciated the dog and now ur saying ur big fan of him ...any ways


would repeat the thing that.. plz bhaiya bidiwale game ka satyanash kar ke kutta wapas kyon bhej diya yahi rakha ke char achi breeding to hone deta ....!


as usual seiger is gone back or jo acha dog hai uski band baja di show fix kar ke sala charsi bidi funk ta funk ta pata nahi judge ke kan main kya funka ...sare ache kutte bottom line main chale gaye ...bhai kyo sub ko dukhi karta hai ...ghar main show kar ke sare kutte tere hi jita liya kar ...or judging bhi khud kar liya kar ...kyonki uski bhi tu chalne to deta nahi ..


chal mubarak ho ab age do teen sall to isi kutte ne seiger ban na hai ...!

hey showstopper what kind of language you writing? for sure its not proper english! I am not able to read it in anyways so it will be better if you write it in your local language.

well thx for the information abt the litter of igor and as far as buto ih sorry abuto whts tht means what ever as u said come out and watch the shows like to tell u the amount fo show i go every year i dnt think xo u r attending even half of it and no doubt wuth respect to igor he is a fantastic male but till date i have only seen one male puppy at the puppy class at the hyd chapter this feb went puppy sieger good one , but my questin is a indian sieger should stay in india to improve the gene pool not just coming a weak ago before the sieger and winning and going back tht wht i hate even many would agree wth this, so abuto our so called one of the gr8 sv commenting many dogs every day wht u have gven just tell us and , anything u wanna tlk just message me ok i will honoured to tlk wth u and improve my knowledge ...

Hello Mr DSH,

I would like to wish you all luck for the Igor's Litter,

I wish the puppies a great success as i am a Big time Igor fan :)

Excellent litter after Igor Rommelsbach out of a Xadro Bad Boll daughter located in Germany (Saarland)

The pups are now 6 weeks old. Very good pigmentation (red-browen/Black), good movement and best nature.

Breeder: Hans Strässer, Tholey kennel: "vom Ohlenkopf"

More info: melanie.dupont@web.de

showstopper please come out of MP and see some shows all over India, Igor no doubt a very good producer, we saw his offspring and its really awesome for sure.

A indian sieger of india well till date no progeny from this quantum son till date , as he is the sieger in india but havent contributed anything till date in india, so any one tell me abt the puppies out of him***

Need information about this Indian Sieger:

Is this male still in India or back to his owner in Germany???

If he is still in India, is he available for stud services outside Dogmatix kennel????

I Heard lots of good things about his producing abilities from German friends, If anyone from India used him on their bitches please share their experience with the forum.

THANKS.

Hello Daksh
what kind of language you writing, am sorry but am unable to read what you written, please write it in clear English or in your local language.

well nice words who so ever u r mr knightrider well for yr kind information i dnt have the "NAWABI SHOK" ok and congratulating the winner is licking the ass thn i think u should tell m wht the better way to address the winner in yr language , and i gve a damm if its a a fixing show or not just posted my regards to the winner , i think this made u feel insecure and if u have any other tlks so better tell me who r u and tlk to me face to face , as i dnt have any dogmatix kennel Dog and even in future no earge to get one either so mr rider a unknown person r u an indian if so just reveal yr name and stop argumenting any others comments ok and if u have guts tlk face to face, other wise this sheet will be full of shit in the coming days as i will counter each and every rply of yrs,and what do u mean by fixer hahahahahaha well if u wanna knw the full idea of this just ask those who does this kind of fixings and if u get the idea do let know well u south peoples knw he to do this kind of stuff better isinted .,thts all i can say good luck wth yr commenting bye

Daksh

Mr.DaKsh I like to congratulate you as you are the only one who like to lick everyone's ass, and this time its of 'Fixer D', anyways enjoy it.

congratulation to igor for becoming a indian sieger.

Regards
Daksh

Congratulations to the Owners... Igor is Indian Seiger!! Was superb in the ring and well deserved.

This is dog is going to become the next Indian Sieger. What a way to fool the KCI as well. Or if this is some new rule KCI has made that there can be two different owners of a same dog. One can be outside the country and other can be someone from the same country. This is not done. The dog is still registered in two names Mr. Desai in INDIA and Mr. Helmut Koing in Germany. On whose name will the dog be shown in the INDIA this yr.

This is not the first time this had happened Mainer times the dog is bought from other and shown as their own breeding, Kimon of dogmatix. Similarly many more, came to know that once import female became bred in India dog of the yr. this is Sad, if you are not able to breed anything this is not the way to show your breeding.

Last but not the least, how is GSDCI helping the breeders and the show exhibitors. Everything comes as a surprise for every on in the show ring, may it be the gunshot test, Height measurement or any other improvement for that matter. Why are the things not informed in well advance to the exhibitors? If the Club is thinking of introducing anything for the next yr it Is not going to be known to the other GSD enthusiast before the show or in fact before a few days time, where as they are well prepared to show the dogs in that sense on the ground. If the club is planning to introduce anything new it should be informed to the people right away when the decision is made. There is no transparency in the system. The club is a total Home show, only their dog will win and only they will know what is going to come. There is no difference between the club high official and our corrupt Politicians. But they should understand that there is always an end to it. INDIA as rose against terrorism and against the corrupt politicians and in the same we will also have to rise to fight against the corruption the Club is doing, May it be with the KCI or with the other GSD exhibitors or breeders.

How long is this club going to dominate people of India, how long will this person rule the GSDCI, who is electing him again and again and how he is so much worthy of becoming the secretary of the club when he is doing nothing for the club. Why is DNA not started in INDIA till date, cos if this is started DOgmatix will not be able make a single dog whose DNA is correct. The Kennel is like Bogadi kennel the biggest puppy mill for the GSD in INDIA.

Time to re think, time for something new to come. Cos "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH"

Sanjaybhia Congragulations for the success eagerly waiting for the new surprise coming our way.

Wait for upcoming saiger show i will give you surprise to every indian gsd lover

WELL GOING ALL THE COMMENTS UNDER THESE GOD NAME IGOR I CAME TO KNW THT THE DOG WAS IN INDIA FOR JUST A NATIONAL SIEGER SHOW I RGHT , OK NOW THE POINT IS THT IT WAS SHOWN UNDER THE OWNERSHIL OF DESAI (TEAM DOGMATIX) NW WHT IS GOING ON IS THT THE PEOPLE KNW THT IGOR IS DESAI'S DOG WELL THIS GOING B,COZ OUR QOWN KCI HAS APPROVED THE DOG TO BE SHOWED AT THE SHW ARENA IN INDIA UNDER DESAI OWNERSHIP ,,,, SO PEOPLES KNW THT ONLY THTS THEY ALL ARE LICKING DESAI'S ASS , BUT THE FACT IS THT THE DOG IS IN THE NAME OF MR. HELMUT KONIG, SO WE SHOULD CONGRATULATE HIM RATHER GINING TO TEAM DOGMATIX...

WELL IT DOSENT MATTER WHO TO CONGRTULATE JUST ONE THING MATTERS IS WETHER THE DOG IS COMING BACT TO INDIA OR NOT AND IF HE CAN CONTRIBUTE SOME THING IN THE GENEPOOL OF GSD IN INDIA THN BY THT TIME WE SHOULD PRAISE DOGMATIX TEAM, B,COZ IT JUTS GETTING A SCENARIOPO THT A BIGGIES GET A DOG FRM GERMANY BY INVESTING A LOT OF MONEY JUST FOR ONE OR 2 SHOWS ALONG WTH THE OWNER AND THE HANDLERS TO MAKE THR NAME WELL THEY JUST WANNA PROVE THERE ASS BY LICKING GERMAN DIRTY F=== ASS,WELL SHOWING A WINNER AND A RATTED DOG OF A DIFF COUNTRY AND COOMING UP TO THE TOP IS THIS THE WAY TO MAKE A NAME NOPE JUST RUING THE GSD GAME IN INDIA .... SO I AGREE WTH ALL OF U THT CONGRATES SHOULD BE GIVEN TO THE RGHT OWNER NOT TO THE PERSON WHO HAS JUST THROW A MONEY TO SHW HIS GOLDEN (+++)....

SO JUST WAIT FOR THE DOG AND LET SEE HW HE CONTRBUTES IN INDIA LIKE THE OTHER DOGS LIKE , QUANDO,EROS AND MANY MORE ***.....!

That is why it is said that you should always have a mitigation plan. If something you have planned is not available then you should have a second dog planned for breeding [if at all it is mandatory]. This is not the only case but it can also be true that the dog is already booked with some breeding dates.

This is the responsibility of the owner of the stud to be certain with the dates of the dog for stud, as in my case MR Desai had already informed me well in advance the dates his stud stud (vigor) will be available, and it gave me good time to decide the breeding dates of 11th and 13th day instead of 9th day and 11th.

When it comes to people sending the dog back to Germany this is a personal decision and an individual can never question on why some other did a certain thing. Why was Quenn out [strictly owners discretion], why Zamp not shown [again strictly owners discretion]. These things you should plan well in advance in spite of abusing the owner of the dogs.


regards,

Cyrus

It is for all so called top rated BREEDERS in INDIA who r IMPORTING GSD's every year and send them back.
These people r bringing these dogs only to prove their supremacy year after year....
But for a serious Indian Breeder these people r disturbing their breeding program as if someone decides to use some dog after Indian sieger show he didn't get that dog for stud as it is already back.
ONE QUESTION TO ALL INDIAN SERIOUS BREEDER
Can it is possible that these top rated BREEDERS in INDIA not using these dogs in their own kennel?
If they r using those dogs then can they r not sticking other paper for the puppy as sire ?

JUICE OF ALL - ALL BIG BREEDERS R RUINING THE GAME IN INDIA BY DOING ALL MALPRACTICES THEY CAN DO TO CHEAT A STARTER OR BEGINNER IN THIS GAME.

POWER TO B.I. DOGS

We Indians can understand your frustration, keep your cool & for ur fathers sake dont use foul language on net & this fourum specially. Just CHILL .........THE DOG IS EXCELLENT.

I Can't understand why the fuck every one is congratulating sanjay desai
when he just took a dog on lease.... fucking congratulate true owner .. I guess indian's will for ever act like blind peoples..Its better v appreciate d True Talent rather den Pissin Aroun wid d wrong one's


Regards
Peetar

hope to see some progeny of igor in india.

congrats mr. sanjit & mr. sanjay for bringing such a wonderful dog to india. waiting to see more miracles from igor next years.

Congrates Igor well i would love to knw weather this male coming back to india ot not***

Would prefer an Indian ass than a German as the former is hygienic and cleans properly rather than simply wiping it with a toilet paper.
But have absolutely no complaints about those who prefer to have it with the remnants of german excrement.
Carry on with your tasty work.

Nothing is more discouraging than unappreciated sarcasm

and

Jealousy is a mental cancer.

Congratulation Mr.Helmut Konig. This was indeed your hard work which has kept this dog to such standards.

These fucker Indians will only lick Mr Desai's a**.

I hope you bring some more such dogs to Our country. I wish we can use them also sometime.

GREAT NEWS........!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congratulations to Mr.Desai and Team Dogmatix.

It is time for us all to stand and cheer for the doer, the achiever — the one who recognizes the challenge and does something about it. Indeed a proud moment for India. Well done Team Dogmatix.


Congratulations.

congratulation sanjaybhai & mohanty

Congratulations to da Team Dogmatix!!!

& Best wishes for da future!!!

Great going Sanjaybhai, team dogmatix and Mr.Helmut Konig. Congratulations.

CORRECTION TO THE LAST COMMENT ITS V12 BSZS 2008 .....

Congrates to Igor for making in to V11 at the BSZS 2008 Aachen Germany...

congrts to sanjay desai& team dog matix

IGOR is V12 in GHKLH 2008

Regards
Ram

good to hear this from the owner. best luck for further results three cheers to team dogmatix

Igor delivere a fantastic bitwork (the best Quantum son in the World today). People was very excited of his bitework.

Who so every may be the owner of the dog, we know him because of Sanjay Bhai.

Wishing him and Mohanty a very good luck for the Sieger Show.

May Igor Achieve good heights in the Sieger show. All the Best

Regards,

Team Deejay [Deepak Mudaliyar and Jayesh Upadhyay]

HI!!!!!All


Sorry for using bad language and passing some vulgar comments.Was just giving answers to my friends.So sorry for hurting your feeling. And lets enjoy the game.


Regards,

Bunty.

HELLO U ALL GUYS I DONT KNW Y U ALL R CUTTING OTHERS LOADED BALLS ,WELL JUST WANNA SAY ONE THING I DNT KNW WATH THIS GSD GAME IS ALL ABOUT, JUST WANNA SAY ONE THING THAT STOP KARO CHUT MARNA, GAND MEIN UNGLI KARNA OK JO BHI KARO EK DUSARE SE BAAT KARO YEH SAB KISSI KE DOG KE IMAGE KO KYUN BARWAD KAR RAHE HO USKI PROFILE KE UNDER LIKH KAR ... IN ENGLISH STOP FUCKING THE DOGS IMAGE JUST SEE WHO U R AND WHT U R DOING IN THIS FIELD JUST WANNA PROVE YOUR POINT THEN DO IT IN A GEMNTLEMAN WAY "COME TO RING AND PERFORME THEN YOUR WORDS WILL COUNT"....JUST WANNA SAY TO ALL U FUCKING GUYS THIS LINES FOR U:- AGAR AAESA HAI TAU PAKADH KE DEKHO KAISA HAI PHIR YEDI AARAM NA MILE TAU SAWAN AAYE JHOOM KE SAB GAND MARAO GHUMKE......!!!!!

Hello Robinhood GSD & samleo,

Please explain me the meaning of "BOOT LICKER".
Correct me if I am wrong.

praising someones dog = bootlicker of the owner of the dog.

If this is correct then everybody BE WARE before praising a dog you might turn into a "bootlicker" or more than that "a** licker".

This is really interesting site apart from GSD knowledge your english vocabulary also improves because some days back I found the new meaning of the word FREIND = GAY.

Ohh!!!!! should i get frighten that u came to know.Ok then i m.Anything more robin.If u wanna lick i will tell him to keep another pair of boot for you,they r really sweet.

Hey d company i know who u are bastard u are tall black guy, fat from mumbai u r boot licker of azim

HELLO D COMPANY EVEN U R ADDED IN THE DOUBLES AND U HAVE BECOME TRIPLETS SUMO NICE PARTNER ENJOY BEFORE RING STARTS

Azim is a reputed breeder.and please dont pass some bad comments on him.The dog you are talking about where all champions,they have taken many BOBS,CC,RCC,BI and BIS which you must never heard of.Hulk,come and see his daughter in our hyderabad.Faro which was used by top breeders and his progeny was worth mentioning,he himself was a vice seiger.Eros a mindblowing mover winning many best in shows.Cheap price,please bye one and see yourself.Ask Kala,Sanjay,Vishwas,Krishnmurty,Noorie,Ajit about this reputed breeder and they will tell you, this is 20 years of hardwork.

Hello Abuto,

Thanks for the "valuable" information.

Thanks for sharing your "valuable" information about Azimbhai with whold GSD world.

I got to know new synonym for FREIND = GAY. Oops that makes the whole world "GAY" even yourself.

Last but not the least thanks for reminding not to waste time writing on this forum. I had forgotten that. Same to you.

Bye Bye all.

hi sumo i just want to ask you one question ARE YOU GAY?
if not is there any affair between you and Azim? I am reading your comments from many days but don't understand why you writing so much about him under this dog 'Igor' whose owner is someone else.
Azim is nothing but just a 'Dalal' of dogs, not only of shepherds but also of all breeds. He selling dogs for more than 20 years. he only interested in his commission.
he never introduced fresh new dogs in his kennel. he only interested in dogs which available at cheap price. Xaro and Wasty were also one of them. Then come Faro son of Hill. The worst dog which came to india with many genetic faults and he passed all his belongings to his progeny. for example HD and ED problem, soft ears problems and many more. when Azim came to know that, he sold him.
After Faro his new dog was Hulk, he never shown this dog because he was long coat and also got limping problem.
Then came Eros but this time picture was different the owner of that dog in real was Mr. Sanjay bhai and after this years siegerhsow when both of them come to know that this dog don't have any future, Eros is also sold out.
my only point is why you counting Azim with few reputed breeders? you are doing nothing but insulting others when you counting them with Azim. please stop all this stupid things on this forum.
i know that many bad things written about mr. Sanjay bhai under Igor but when he don't have any problem with that what problem do you have?
someone written that you are 'biggest boot licker of all' and i think thats true.
sumo do something practically. its very easy to give critiques and pass comments on others dogs, any one able to do this. if you really have so much guts and knowledge why don't you show it on showground.
don't waste your and others time. i really like to see you in this years rings with your dogs.(if you have any)

Hello samleo,

Arre bhai aap mere se kyon naraaz hain? Kuch to batayiye. You must be knowing my email so please email me whatever questions you have.

Firstly Azimbhai is experienced and knowledgable enough to differentiate between freind and foe. Still thanks for cautioning him.

Secondly I have never criticized any dog or a handler. I fully appreciate the pains taken by handler and breeder and owner to enter the dog in the show. I am thankful to all of them because these are the people who make the show possible.
But when I come to watch the show surely I have my favorite dogs which I would love to see win. That does not mean I talk foul about other dogs.

Please email me what dirty I have spoken about other dogs surely if its true I will take care not to speak like that again as I also dont like to speak dirty.

I am in touch with this show and breeding only for 3 years and the only person I know very well is Azimbhai. So definately if someone enquires to me about a dog I suggest Azimbhai's name. Now if that makes you think I am Fags agent in Mumbai then yes I am. Please note Azimbhai does not need any agent he himself is worthy of selling his own pups.If you become my good freind I will suggest your name also whats the big deal. I will be your "agent" as you say.

Lastly thank you for considering me worthy of Rs.1200 per dog to handle or run your dog. But thank you I know my limitations and dont want to spoil your dogs show career.

Last but not the least BE HAPPY YAAR.I am waiting for your email.

THANK YOU SUMO FOR YOUR COMPLIMENT AND FIRST OF ALL AZIM IS LUCKY TO HAVE A WELL WISHER LIKE ME BUT UNLUCKY TO HAVE BACKBITCHERS LIKE YOU, YOU CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY DOGS DO U HAVE?U KEEP ALL FAGS KENNEL DOGS AND YOU ARE A AGENT OF FAGS KENNEL.ON TOP OF THAT U GIVE BAD WORDS TO UR OWNER AZIM.AGAIN I WILL SAY AZIM OPEN YOUR EYES WIDE AND RECOGNISE PEOPLE AROUND YOU.GET IN THE RING SOMETIME WITH YOUR OWN DOGS ITS VERY EASY TO STAND OUTSIDE THE RING AND CRITICISE OTHERS DOGS.WORK HARD PRACTISE WITH YOUR DOGS RUN WITH THEM YOU WILL COME TO KNOW WHAT IS A GERMANSHEPHERD DOG YOU WONT BE ABLE TO LIFT YOUR ASS SO STOP BULLSHITTING AND PASSING DIRTY COMMENTS ON OTHERS DOGS.THANK YOU WAITING FOR YOUR REPLY SOON FAGS AGENT IN BOMBAY COME TO PUNE I WILL KEEP U TO RUN MY DOGS 1200 PER DOG

Hello samleo,

I must say Azimbhai's is very lucky to have a well wisher like you in this big bad world. It is rare to find one. I must say you "know more about me" than myself. I also request you to call him personally and tell him facts about me since he does not browse internet.

I did not understand this sentense of your "Bastard we will breed dogs and have to sell at the price quoted by azim". Do you mean you breed dogs and Azimbhai decides the price? It is difficult to understand. Please elaborate.

One more sentense I did not understand which I would like you to explain with example "stop writing shit about the dog and other dog owners." If its true I publically apologise on this forum.

Thanks for limiting my degrees to "Boot licker" & "Bastard" and not anything further.

I think I know who you are and will call Azimbhai today and let him know.

Last but not the least this is a place to comment about Igor vom Rommelsbach. Since you know me so well you must be knowing my email also. So please send me your lovely and kind words and comments on my email and cc to all your freinds whom you want to know about me and save this space for Igor.

Thank you.

Dearest Kumar,

Amigo is the best that Ajit could ever bring. He is a better conformation dog. About his producing abilities, I agree that he has not produced any of his worthy decendents, but then my point was in context to other ajit’s dog. At least I found him better then the others. About his friends, Mr. Gerd is one of the most knowledgeable people who dare to breed sable lines in this time of game where the Black and Tan is dominating like anything, but then how effectively have they helped our dearest Mr. Ajit in improving condition in INDIA. I guess not by bringing those Pakros daughters.

Anyways I have already quoted my opinion in my previous messages, so I need not continue anymore. I would also suggest you dear Kumar, not to waste your time to find out who I am or from where I belong. I am an Indian and know the game very well. So just concentrate on what I am writing and if you have any suggestions we can improve, I would appreciate.

In addition, Mr. Samleo, it will be good for every one if u can better write in HINDI or any of your regional language, cos it s very difficult for us to understand what you have written.

igor is a very nice dog, he is future sieger. and sumo bastard stop writing shit about the dog and other dog owners and i have found out bastard you are biggest boot licker of Azim farooqui bastard afterwards u speak bad about Azim saying wicked ,cunning, cruel ,import laane germany naahin aata wat about that ha? u and your Friend Taklu Harish give bad words to Azim Farooqui.Bastard we will breed dogs and have to sell at the price quoted by azim.dont breed bootlicker .dont have any grudges against Azim farooqui this is what your people speak about u be careful.

titbit,
[At one point of time Ajit is bringing Vendor, then Xarax and then Amigo, which is off course a better dog then the later and hopefully can contribute, is this how their friends are helping them to improve.]Are in favour of ajit,and one more thing,ajits friends are knowledgeable person and they know what is better for breeding to improve.n u call amigo a better dog,who is not even producing.i know you are from andhra you are fat,short and dark guy.so dont be seriously frustrated my friend.

Hi sumo,
I agree with every word of your and would like to thank the list of people you have already mentioned with some youngsters who show keen interest in bringing imports and try to improve the breed.

I agree with you that over the time things will definitely change, my only concern is we have such knowledgeable people in INDIA yet we bring dogs who are not even worth standing in the ring. I would like to mention a couple of incidents,
1. We have Igor come to INDIA, that is one of the best dogs to have come, but fortunately or unfortunately have gone back but then Y the same breeder have a exact contrary Ghandi son which is not worth any thing I guess. Why only lines? I want to ask a couple of things, Lines matter when u has some great females to breed, the dog should also be like that in that case. Vishal brought a Vegas son, very beautiful but is he worth breeding; everyone should have noticed his temperament. Vishal also brought a Parkos son, ronni Von haus Yu, what is the point. There are a couple of Zamp sons in India as well but what is the use? At one point of time Ajit is bringing Vendor, then Xarax and then Amigo, which is off course a better dog then the later and hopefully can contribute, is this how their friends are helping them to improve. What is the point in visiting Germany so often by these big people if they cannot understand what they are bringing? I can Understand that Mr. Desai being a busy man cannot often visit Germany and have to rely on BOB which is not at all worthy to his name and is the master mind in polluting the Gene pool.
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Now you suggest me should not there be people or clubs, which should decide on what all dogs should we bring? Alternatively, an individual should invest in which can help everyone. See an Import dog as anytime in better condition and health and other things then compared to a Bred in INDIA dog, and I know that now a days many people are breeding good in INDIA but then competing in INDIAN sieger show with top-notch imports does not make any sense, anyways people will be using them for breeding and know their capabilities through abroad countries, yeh I agree they should be shown in esp the Sieger show cos that is where the whole INDIA gather. But then winning with them does not make any sense cos there was no competition as such. Otherwise, we can have a separate BI Sieger for that matter.

INDIA has improved since the time we have started and we will improve further as well, but do not you think this slow growth could have been better if the elderly and hon. members took the initiative. Where is same Mr Desai who helped the People in the ring to Guide them show the Bite. Where is that initiative gone? He is a person whome people should have prayed life for being part of this game, this is not happening cos the interest is personal and not for the Game and the breed.

There are personal liking to every one for there taste of GSD, but then that lies in the anatomy, but if we lack the base of the breeding that is good string female then do u think we will ever be able to produce good.

Why is China buying all the top dogs and Top mean really TOP, cos they have to improve. I think they started much later then us, but if we see the quality I guess they are now 1000 times better then us, just because they have better dogs, they have not gone on the bloodline of any dog, INSTEAD they have bough the dog itself and those dogs are open to every one to improve. Then why cant us? Why cant all big rich people who say themselves to own top imports bring such quality dogs that the world will want to use. Why dogs only for winning.

It is high time when Mr desai will have to take initiative to Improve everything n INDIA, he will have to become the Old MR desai who can help everyone to teach them and make them understand the dog better.

Sorry for a long essay but this is seriously my frustration, cos we are running to go to Germany to see the show and do not even think that how can we improve so that they run to use to see our sieger show.

Hello Titbit,

Dont get frustrated. Have patience. GSD standard in India is defiantely improving every year. All the people are contributing in their capacity to improve it. As you are aware any change takes place very slowly in India. GSD world is no exception. Few days back I saw the video of first Indian sieger show held in Pune in 1997(?). There very few bred in India dogs out there who were worth a notice. Some were looking like they are direct descendents of the wolf. And compare it to this years Indian sieger show the bred in India quality was mindblowing. One of the female even became V3 beating some very good imports. It was really funny to see 1997 Indian sieger. Dogs were handled with a ordinary belt, handlers dont know double handling, sometimes Mr.Desai himself is showing participants how to show th correct bite.

So I am very optimistic that bred in India standard will definately improve. As breeders all over the country gain more and more knowledge they will definately use better Imports as studs. And naturally if anyone bringing inferior imports will "die" with time.

As I am a true GSD fan I take opportunity to thank Mr.Desai, Mr.Noorie, Mr.Bhinder, Mr. Mathew, Mrs.kala Krishna,Kingway kennel, Mr.Azim, and many many more people who invest their precious money and time to bring super imports and improve GSD in India

Thanks.

Very well said Mr. Knight Rider, and you certainly proved to one of them who can never want to improve the Standards but just show the people.

Anyways I have put up my point and I guess those who really care would have understood it by now.

Wish you all the luck and I hope you can help improve the breed standard in our country and not just who what is going on in Germany because for that I would rather spend 130 Euro to get a Revision Video.

Dear Mr. Kumar,

I agree that I should not be worried if the dog is koiengs or Mr. desai’s it is same as congratulating you for Kimon of dogmatx [Am I right Gunda wolfenhaus]. Then why not Mr Knight Reider for Igors wins in Germany.

Anyways hard to believe why people in India cannot live without buttering others. I have no personal grudges with Mr. Desai but only that he had powers but still he is not doing any good for the game.

titbit i say the same thing y r u having a problem whether the dog is owned by mr.desai or by mr.koning.all is the same they both have good relationship,y r u bothered?so should i ask u one thing r u from andhra pradesh and which dog do u own.and once more congrats to igor and dogmatix team.

TITBIT NOW YOU COME TO RIGHT POINT. IF YOU ARE NOT WEALTHY ENOUGH TO BRING A GOOD IMPORT TO THE COUNTRY WHY BLAMING ON OTHERS.

IF YOU THINKING THAT MR. DESAI IS NOT OWNER OF "IGOR" THEN WAIT FOR SOME TIME TILL THIS YEAR SIEGERSHOW IN GERMANY. GREAT SURPRISES THEIR FOR INDIAN PEOPLES. 4 TO 5 GSDS INCLUDING MALE AND FEMALES OWNED BY INDIAN PEOPLE WILL BE THEIR IN GERMAN RINGS.

AND MR.DESAI BRINGS SOME DOGS TO INDIA MAY BE IN YOUR OPINION THEY ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH AND SOME DOGS LIKE "JUSTIN ZUM KOLBENGUSS" AND OTHERS WHO RETURNED BACK TO THEIR COUNTRY AFTER WINNING SHOWS. BUT I DON'T THINK SOME WRONG THING IN THAT BECAUSE FOR SOME TIME PEOPLE OF INDIA GOT A CHANCE TO SEE WHAT STANDARD IS GOING ON WORLDWIDE AND ENCOURAGE OUR BREEDERS TO BREED SOMETHING LIKE THEM. ITS NOT NECESSARY THAT EACH TIME WE MATE OUR BITCHES WITH GOOD IMPORT MALE. NOW THE DAYS COME WHEN WE HAVE SOME VERY GOOD BRED IN INDIA DOGS WHO ABLE TO SHOW THEIR MAGIC ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. FOR EXAMPLE THIS YEARS DOGS LIKE "KINGSWAYS MIKA", "YASKO V WOLFEN-HAUS", "MYSTICAL"(SON OF "FIRE BOY") AND MANY MORE.

IF YOU ARE THINKING THAT ITS VERY EASY TO GET A GOOD DOG WITH NO FAULTS FROM GERMANY WELL THEN MAY BE YOU THINKING THAT ITS VERY EASY. EACH DOG WHICH COME TO INDIA GOT SOME FAULTS NO ONE EXCLUDED FROM THIS FACT AND IN FUTURE ALSO THIS THING WILL BE CONTINUE.

SO COOL DOWN AND DO SOME WORK. DON'T WORRY ABOUT OTHERS.
BECAUSE OTHERS ARE NOT LIKE YOU WHO JUST SITTING ON COMPUTERS AND WASTING TIME.

Hi Knight-Rider,

First I’ll propose not to take things personally until you are one of them and try and Switch off your Caps lock before writing. This is a decent people Forum and not an abusing message board.

Secondly I am not wealthy enough to bring even a bad import to India but for sure if I am able to I’ll never bring what some knowledgeable person have bought just to do nothing but breed and get good money.

You tell me with your own heart, what good dogs have come to INIDA who have improved the Standards, then whole India will get your knowledge of the GSD, and I will not have to comment anymore.

Just name the Good imports to come to INDIA and have used to improve the breed.

I have never written “SHEET” [Shit] for anyone but the truth, but if the truth makes you feel shit about the person in subject then you should yourself feel what exactly that person must be.

I believe that good dogs should come to INDIA and then Y do we have some many chapters in India for, only organizing shows. There is more to it, the chapter should have much more responsibilities in improving the standards, and do I sound foolish? Now this is what should really happen. The chapter should control the breeding, there should be a group of sensible people to advice breeding and there should be good dogs in that chapter or region, which should be imported from Abroad to improve.

The game will be very different and then we will have a very different outlook to this GAME. Nevertheless, no will allow this because then the personal profit will be gone. How will the big time People earn and make money with their so-called big imports.

What are we proving by bringing import dogs and winning, that how much money we have, I guess then we should have a very different game for that and not Sieger show. Sieger show is all about German shepherds. Why has no bred in INDIA dog ever become a sieger in their own country, because we have some Rated dogs present already and Why will a German Judge spoil their own countries name and make a home bred country dog a sieger, now that is called patriotism, which I guess we should learn form them.

My dear friend Just tell me and this is open to all who are reading this message, will it be cheaper to bring a much worthier dog from Individual chapters money, where every one is contributing and then the dog is given on a much better affordable price to every one rather then a single man inventing 4-5 lakh and bringing some ass spoil and then charge some big time money.

I know nothing will change by my writing this here but then we will have to make efforts, this may sound bullshit to some who don’t understand English and believe in what other have said and misinterpreted, but a true GSD lover and one like me who cannot afford big money for stud or to bring Imports will always agree with me.


Take care my dear friend.

SUMO OUR MATE TITBIT IS MENTALLY SICK PERSON SO IGNORE HIM. PEOPLE LIKE HIM DON'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT WRITING SHEET ON OTHERS DOG. THEY NOT EVEN KEEPING ABILITIES TO GET ONE GOOD BRED IN INDIA DOG.

AND TITBIT IT IS FOR YOU: WHY YOU BLAMING OTHER PERSON FOR NOT CONTRIBUTING IN GSDS. I HAVE ONE QUESTION: WHAT YOU CONTRIBUTED TO THIS FIELD? WHY NOT YOU COME FORWARD AND BRING ONE GOOD IMPORT GSD TO INDIA WHICH CAN REALLY HELP THE BREEDERS OF INDIA.

SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE CAPABILITIES TO OWN ONE, DON'T MAKE FUN FROM WRITING SOME STUPID COMMENTS ON OTHERS DOG AND SPLY ON WHOM, WHO SHOWN SOME VERY GOOD DOGS IN INDIAN RINGS. PLEASE ACCEPT THE FACT.

KNIGHTRIDER

Hello Titbit,

I think I have answered your question about the contribution of Igor. That we have to wait and see if Igor returns to India and produces something.

Secondly I congratulated Mr.Desai only because from the previous comments I undestood that Igor is owned by Desai. But if as per your knowledge & information Igor has nothing to do with Mr.Desai then there is really no need to congratulate.

A "FAN" means admirer. I am a cricket fan also does not mean I have to play cricket. I know my limitations and never critisize any dog or handler or breeder nor give any anatomical suggestions as you said. I always admire the efforts people take in showing a dog. I myself have shown a GSD few times and I know how hard it is to travel with the dog, sit at the ground for full day many times with minimal facilities. I just cleared my point as you included me with DAREDEVIL in "buttering" up the owner. Which I really dont need to do. I never claim to know lot of GSD. And even the big old GSD person you are referring also does not claim he knows GSD.

Lastly Titbit I will cheer for you also if a dog owned by you wins a place in German show.

Dear Mr Kumar,

This is where the whole point lies. the dog is not owned by Mr. desai. otherwise y should i have the problem. I am also proud to be an indian and wish India all luck in every achievement of INDIA.

BTW INDIA WON their first every individual gold in Olimpics today. So we should be proud of Mr. Bindra.

hey titbit you should b proud of india.its the owners view whether he should bring the dog back or not.this dog is winning top placings in germany.and we indians know that this dog belongs to mr.sanjaybhai.so have the spirit to be indian and cheers india.

Very well said Mr. Sumo.

The only two things you could not answer me until now is what has he contributed to India and Y should we congratulate Mr. Desai. Pedigree database is an international forum and I wish the true owner of the Dog to congratulate at least once. Mr. Koing who came to India with the dog stayed for a while until the shows were over and then took the dog back. Therefore, shall we congratulate Mr. Desai for this? I do not think so. The story of Abdulla Noori and Yogesh Bhujbal is very different. They have literally worked hard with their dogs and trying to achieve something’s out of them and this shows the love and contribution for the breed and the game in INDIA and the patriotism, which you are talking about.

How many Imports did Mr. Desai had in his house, how many times they have bred out of this import parents, did not he ever got a single puppy which can be shown out of India. However, there is a matter of perception. What people want to do? In addition, with no actions of him we can say that he is doing any betterment of the breed in India.

As u said, you are neither a breeder, not a owner nor a selector then how good a GSD fan are you if you yourself are not contribution anything other then your valuable anatomical suggestion on this is board. First, own a GSD then probably when you show him you will come to know the reality of the game. Standing beside any big old GSD person does not mean that you know a lot of GSD.

Dear Sumo I will still wait for your answer, on what IGOR have contributed and why should we be proud to have him in INDIA for some days. I will look for a better response this time.

I heart full apologies to any big man hurt by this message, but the truth remains the truth. No one has contributed any good things to INDIA until date except bringing some Mediocre rejected dogs in Germany to spoil the complete genetics. Exceptional Mr. Noori as he has a total different prospective of the Game [to win].

Hello Titbit,

I dont understand why you are so frustrated with all the people congratulating Mr.Desai? Let them do whatever they want. Your only relevant question was "What has Igor Contributed to India?" That time will only tell if Igor comes back or does not come back.

I congratulated as I am true Indian and I feel proud when a dog owned by any Indian wins in Germany. I am sure you must be knowing what kind of efforts are required to win a dog in Germany. For me I feel proud not only because it is Mr.Desai's dog I even felt proud when I read Tyson Jabora - SG 78 - owned by Yogesh Bhujbal -Maharashtra,India. I felt proud when Bob Grafenburg owned by Mr.Noorie became Sweden Sieger. I feel super proud when I see VA Quenn owned by Mr.Uday Jani. Now everytime I congratulate does not mean I want to butter up the owners.

I think you know me as you said I am same bloodline as Daredevil. But you dont know me very well let me tell you I am not a professional breeder, I dont have any ambitions to get my dog in top places, I dont need any free studs from any one, I dont want to buy any pick of the litter from anyone. So question of buttering and whatever other things you mentioned does not arise. I am a true to GSD lover and want to remain that way.

So I request you to please ask only relevant questions and dont get frustrated by what other people are doing.

Well said Titbit , I have mnetioned this long long ago. The dog is wining only because Mr.Konig is the owner and Mr.Koning is very powerful in Germany. If the dog is winning in Germany why are people not using him for studs ? The dog will be sold to other country just after the show. Mr.Sanjay will get another dog to be in the top 5 this year too.
Message for MR.Sanjay- We all know you have a lot of contacts in Germany and you are a big money man. Please get something very good this year with a latest pedigree. Please dont get dogs like Dasty which was U1, URAS (Shy dog), Encho(Not the right dog). Dont screw up the game more.
Last weekend IGOR was placed V7 in a normal show.

Y are we proud of Igor?

Just because he came to India and went back. Does an Indian own him? I guess we should be much proud to have shown Quando , Fedor, Sammo and have rocky in India with which we could not do and then he went on producing one of the greatest Quantum feimereck.

Tell me Y should we feel Proud of IGOR? “Reply sensibly”

Y should we congratulate team dogmatix for Igor’s success when they don’t have any hand in any of his wins, lets say they did well to bring him in India and stood him V3. and frankly speaking he is a fabulous dog to have ever come to India, but what after that why now are we licking the X[temp] owner’s A**.

No one until date has written any congratulations to the real owner of the dog. Doesn’t e deserve some words of praises.

But what do we have to do with that. We will Butter Mr. desai and Mr. Mohanty as if they are going to give u something for free which they wont. Mr. Ranjan, DareDevil [Biggest boot licker of all] who himself could not do anything but update Faro’s pic on the net, Then Sumo Dare devil brother same bloodline, Mr. Arun, and many more how are don’t know y impressed so much by dogmatix that they can even clean the shit of the owners,

Have some dignity.

And yeh pls do answer my one single question, that why should we be proud of IGOR? What have he contributed to INDIA?

Wait for your reply, all big people

KEEP GOING...................IGOR,WE INDIANS ARE PROUD OF YOU.N HATS OFF TO TEAM DOGMATIX !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

igor wins v-7 under breed warden Reinhardt Meyer Landesgruppen-Zuchtschau LG 11/ 2008 LGZS Dillingen on august 3rd 08 among top dogs and beat many top rated sg and v rated dogs from sieger show.
result

Show Class : Gebrauchshundklasse Rüden --- Judged by : Reinhardt Meyer
Place Predicate Name Kennel
1 V Jakas Garliavietis
1 V Furbo degli Achei
3 V Bruno du Val D'Anzin
4 V Panjo vom Kirschental
5 V Hero di Camporeale
6 V Norik dei Colli Storici
7 V Igor von der Rommelsbach
8 V Wirgo von Baccara
9 V Magnum zum Kolbenguß
10 V Xero delle Terre Matildiche
11 V Nirk von der Werther-Mühle
12 V Nemo von der Lengernheide
13 V Parker von Melanchthon
14 V Xario vom Hühnegrab
15 V Ricco von der Zenteiche
16 V Ailton von Tronje
17 V Urbano von der Urbecke
18 V Visum von der Fürstenperle
19 V Tino von Fichtenbach
20 V Hawel vom Hawelkaweg
21 V Ulk du Fils de la Montagne
22 V Matzo del Seprio
23 V Tico vom Loosbroekerhaus
24 V Zeckel von der Mäusespitz
25 V Darius von Cleo
26 V Varkann du Clos du Schauenberg
27 V Astor vom Bad Wäldle
28 V Frisco vom Usinger Schloß
29 V Olex vom Jünglingsplatz
30 V Ando vom Gaenswald (F)
31 V Natz von der Marker Allee
32 V Yelov von der hohen Erle

Svo 8 Rhein~hohenems bodensee~ zuchtsctau Result is v2--Igor von der Rommelsbach ,, v3 Ulk Vom Leithawald, v4 Balko vom Gleisenauer Schloß,, v5 Leonardo aus Agrigento,

CONGRATES TO TEAM DOGMATIX.........N ALL THE BEST TO IGOR FOR HIS FUTURE!!!!!!!!!!!!SURELY HE WILL ROCK.

CONGRATES AGAIN TO TEAM DOGMATIX FOR THE CONSISTANT PERFORMANCE IN THE SHOWS BY IGOR SO NW WAITING TO SEE IGOR AT THIS YEARS GERMAN SIEGER SHOW , WELL MANY MORE TO COME , LIKET O SEE HIS NEW PIC FROM THE SHOWS ...CHEERS....!!!

Great news ! Congratulations to the owners for such a consistent performance by Igor. Please update the Pic.

New winning ----Germany -Hochheim Hessen-Süd 2008-Jul-20 lg show igor wins v-2, under Dirk Gabriel .

Igor wins again v2 in Astria under Andreas Rudloph on 27 july sunday.

HELLO:

who can tell me

who is the owner (now)

please give me the contact

my e~mail L19776317@YAHOO.COM.TW


THANKS

Congrats to Igor but why to Dogmatix ,Sanjay and Bob ? Is this dog owned by Dogmatix ? I think it is not owned by them. They are only getting dogs to be in the top 3 / 5 and only for the Indian Sieger show. Igor was in India only for 2 weeks. Can anyone deny this ? Bob is back from germany today and can he tell us here who is the owner of Igor. Last year one dog came for the show, this year one and next year one will come only for the show just keep the kennel reputation. I am sorry if I am hurting anyone but it's the TRUTH. Team Dogmatix should stop spreading rumours.

congrats mr. desai & team of dogmatix ...
its really owsome tat igor is really going gr8 in his show career.

Congratulations Dogmatix. If anyone in India who deserves to make it big in Germany it is you. With all the wealth of experience,knowledge and preofessional approach and a great team to back up. Best of luck for the BSZS 2008. Hope to see Igor in top 20. I am sure you will make India proud.

congratulations team dog matix....u guys have done a fantastic job....you'll have made india proud...this is the first time in the history of india...that a dog from india has won v1 continuesly in germany...well done mr sanjay desai...n HATS OFF TO U MR SANJIT MOHANTY...(BOB)....v should all support team dog matix for the efforts they are putting in....all the best for the sieger show...hope to c this dog in the VA line up at the german sieger show...

Well done Igor..congratulations Dogmatix Kennel.

Congratulation to Team Dogmatix IGOR Von Der Rommelsbach wins V-1 on 22 jun 08 under Heinz Scheerer in Og Medelshim GERMANY.

Congratulation to team dogmatix igor v.d .rommelsbach wins V-1 on 22 jun 08 under heinz scheerer in

Congratulation!!! SOME DOGS IGOR BEAT IN THE LG SHOW IN BLACK FOREST;AND WENT V1, AND BEST IN SHOW. THAT are SG1_SAS_SG17 SZS Tex del Murnighell,,,,,,,,,,,sg4 cello haus yu,,,,,,,sg 7 Bruno du Val D Anzin,,,,sg 12 Nilo dei Verdi Colli .

Congratulations Mr. Owner and Mr. VIshwas

Good to see you with Dogmatix again. You must be feeling good again to speak something good about great people.
The owners do have a great eye for the GSD’s and that we can see from what they have brought from Germany and have produced. I guess the two of the dog s were bought from the judge itself for the show you are talking about.

Igor is a good dog, but never expected such uncertain result from him so early. This is good for GSD game in INDIA as he will be a money minting machine again. Anyways just hope he produces something good.
Best of luck vishwas for the upcoming season, no need to say this to the owner cos 1-2or 3rd place he is winning in his own sense.

Congratulations

CONGRATES TO DOGMATIX KENNEL FOR WINNING THE HEARTS OF THE GERMAN PEOPLES AT THE SEIGER SHOW GR8 WORK DONE BY SANJAY AND SANJITH BY GETTING THIS DOG WIN THE V1 AT THE GERMANY ONCE AGAIN CONGRATES AND NOW WAITING TO SEE THE PROGENY BY THIS MALE IN INDIA AND NO DOUBT THE TOP CONTENDER FOR THE NEXT INDIAN SEIGER SHOW.....

At the 50th Aniversary Jubilium Show at OG-Elzach in Black Forest Germany. (Indian V-3)Igor Rommelsbach was Sieger V1 under Mr.Leonard Shwiekert.
Special note is HE was V1 upfront several Top SG dogs from the BSZS 2007 namely, SG4 Cello Haus Yu, SG7 Bruno du Val D'Anzin, Top Quantum son Tex Murnighelo to name a few. (Information provided by Mr.Sanjit Mohanty)
Nice foresight shown again by Sanjay and Sanjit in picking out a Young dog with a great future, looks like the next Indian Sieger is in the making! ;)

Congratulation Sanjay Bhai, got a new winning in germany

that's not his owners style.he always bring nice dogs,keeps them,prove them as a good producers e.g.uro,stubucko,dasty,uras,ful,vigor(excuss justin and now igor).i hope he will return to india and the owner prove him a goodd sire.

ONE OF THE BEST MALE AT DOGMATIX KENNEL.

hey dear gaurav. thanx for the advice!
you are right.....
i might be unlucky in gsd game
whatever, you opened my eyes
i am planning to buy a gsd adult bitch .....
any idea regarding .......this....???

dear gaurav you got right answer for the people like "ronit" who don't even know how tough to raise a gsd pup whether it is bred in india or import, breeding gsds is the part that far away for pople like ronit.
sometime owner of the pup makes many mistake while raising a gsd pup and after all their mistakes when the future of that pup demolished they blame the breeder that he/she gave them wrong pup.
people like ronit only dreaming about their dream dogs and compairing gsds with other breeds like labradors.
they don't understand a simple point why the breeder wants to mate best suitable male with their bitches. its true that there's only one or two pups which promising more than other pups in one litter but other pups also have a good future because of good bloodlines which they carring with them.
when you asking about the pick of the litter its true that the breeder don't give you that one easily because it pleasure to retain your own breeding pup.

hey ronit.....if you really believe in bred in india gsd then i have one request to u...
you can buy a good quality adult gsd bitch which is bred in india and mate her with import dog like IGOR or any other and you can get a good littre from this combo! retain one very promising puppy from this littre and show it ! that way yr problem will be solved....try it out....no need to go to breeder for buying promising puppy!!! yeh???
and dear keeping labrador and keeping even bred in india gsd is diffrent man... gsd need special care where as labs are little easy to raise comapre to gsd..! i am not telling labs dnt need care.... but, you need to put lots of effort to make show winning gsd....really! though i am new to gsd game but, i too own three gsds. so, i know man.....its not as easy as it seems! even if you have enough money......
see, everyone has his own point of view....and you may be right frm yr point of view.....

hello, ronit this is GAURAV
dnt blame any one if dnt know about him! igor's owner is a good man! i too have a female frm his kennel. i personally pic this female from his kennel..and he showed me all puppies at that time...i took a whole day time selecting this pup and mr.desai gave me what i asked for......and i gave the amount he asked.....
see the link below for my female from dogmatix kennel..the pic was taken when she was about 3 monrths old!!!

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/545818.html

even in south also thr r so many breeders who breeds wonderful gsds!! like vishwas raj, p.a suresh , mrs. kala krishna etc......

IGOR is the best quantam arminus son in india......for sure

hello all gsd lovers..................
IGOR is trule a wonderful dog!!!! he should get 1st place instead of 3rd,,,, a great mover .....
he is truly deserving dog......
all the best for next sieger show to dogmatix team..................................

cheers...!

aaj tak, one more thing dear........
you go and personally pic the pup from these reputed breeders who imports gsd frm grmany and you will think that you have picked up the best puppy from the littre!!
but, me and my frnd have expirenced ourself that even best puppy was hidden when we went to pic our pup!! and second best came to us!

it is a truth dear.... these people dnt want that any other person takes their places in shows!!! they are doin gr8 bussiness in this gsd game! and i am not blaming a single person......its everywhere in india.....not blaming any perticular person .....

dear, aaj tak
do you own any gsd or even a single dog??? or you are a pet gsd of this dog's owner!
bcoz without getting my point you are simply favouring this dog;s owner!!!
i told u that i am not aginst any gsd owners or people who imports gsd from germany!

but, imporing gsd from germany and making him seiger shows that we dnt have trust in bred in india gsd!!!
so, people are importing gsd to win the shows!!

thats my point dear....why you are blindly favouring this dog owner or any one who imports gsd from germany!
and as you say i m a lab owner but, you must be gsd lover anf must know much about the breed!! right??
tell me how many breeders give you a really promising puppy even if you pay the highest price for that pup???? no one!!!
the best puppy will never go out of thier kennel!!!

dear ronit,
you having labradors and talking about gsds, dude i can't control my laugh. its don't make any sense that you have 7 labradors or 70. its the most easy think to have labradors as pet because i don't think there's any difference between stray dogs or labradors.
if you don't have any knowledge of this gsd game then why you behaving like principal of this gsd school and blaming some of breeders for curruption in dog game.
its clear that you hold grudge on the owner of this dog but one suggestion to you that don't blame any of the dog only beacause he belongs to someone who you don't like.
if you have enough money then why don't you try to import good gsd dogs in india and try to improve our breeding standard.
its very tough to have one very good import gsd in own kennel than writing some stupid comments on others dog.

hello, aaj tak sabse tez....
thanx for yr advice....!
and for your kind information i am an architech engineer and planned many good projects in delhi....and i too own 7 labradors who are my pets and bred in india dogs!!! two of them are champions!
but, brother i am not against of any rich people!! iam a animal lover
i have seen so many shows all over india...even in south also! but, some where i felt that money and yr contacts do make difference in evry field in india....so why not in dog game??? thats the fact i felt after attending shows!
and regarding yr advice.... i'll participate with my kid in shahrukh's show and if i make money i'll donate it in delhi animal welfare rescues!!! bcoz they need more money then me or you!! so that i can help more to all thoes forlorn animals !!!
and again for yr kind information i am donating in that institution for last five years as per my capacity!!!
so thanx for yr golden advice!!!

dear ronit i understanding your feelings, person from a poor family like you but having big dreams thinks that all big shots who having money got this gsd game in their hand and blame them for that but now a days this's not the actuality. In india here we have many breeders who not only breed good dogs but breed winning dogs even though they don't have big amount of money in their hands.
if possible survey some of our India's south breeders who having and breeding some very good winning gsds even though they are not big shots by money.
please don't blame person only because he having money and you don't.
take a chill pill dude:)
now days indian government also came forward to help people like you. There are many ways to earn easy money. simple way is that you can participate in shows like "KAUN BANEGA KARORPATI" and if you thinking that you miss that chance don't worry because there's a new show of SRK for people like you "Kya aap panchvi paas se tej hai? really easy way to earn money so please earn enough money for this gsd game and fight back with big shots.
good luck to you ronit and may God bless you.

dear, matador i m not slandring any one! it is not how many years you have spent in this field.... importanat is, how much money you can spend in this feild... and hw many contacts you have.......!!!!
i know igor is a good even better than latest sieger !!!

i am not against the owner of IGOR! even i know him very well.
but, my point is in india, money wins not good dogs!!
i prefer that in siger show we should not show german improts and make him sieger! yes, we can use german imports for breeding in india!
because in rare case it happens that impoted is beaten by bred in india in sieger show!!
so, why should we make german dogs win in our country??? why can't you make pure indian siger???? who is bred in india>>>>>>

some times i feel that top owners are only for rich people in every field in india... so why not in dog game???
how ever a middle class gsd lover will rarely get good placements in shows (even if he has a better dog then rich people)! bcoz they can't spend LACS on dogs!!

we always think that we will give our best and make our dog win but, at the end not yr talent or yr good dog wins!! only money wins......

Please dont talk about reputation or gentelman to owner of this dog.we all know how bad losser he is.curruption is part of his life.I wonder all his false victory and money,where is going to take?Infact he can realy do justice to the game?but he won"t.However this dog is realy good,but people are seek of him except his "bumpkisser".

Dear Ronit, let me give you an impartial view. I will not side you or the owner of this dog. Igor is a beautiful dog no doubt( infact any dog is). If his owner meant him to win then he could as well as become the Sieger this year but he was placed third though even his owners critics gave him a very good review. .

Slandering against a person will get you nothing, and the person you are slandering about has been in this field for twenty years. Most of the dogs he brought have been good producers I am a witness to it. I am a normal person and with a good dog like Attila der Hund won many a competition against imports and then people were screaming that the shows were fixed. Any result against you should be taken with a pinch of salt.You win some You lose some, Attila has defeated so many of the dogs bred by this person.

There is a lot of constructive work to be done in the GSD field in India, we have to work towards getting better producers and produce better, not everybody can import dogs of the best quality and I will tell you that BI's produce better than Imports.

Let us unite and Fight about matters of importance like Breed survey, Good Hips, Good elbows, Good temperament, Blood disorders, in an orderly manner like Gentlemen.

I appeal to you good self that such slander will fetch nobody anything and you cannot damage the reputation of this person at all,let us all try something productive.

hello this is ronit from delhi
Igor is good dog
but if he would be exhibited on some other person's name instead of his present owner name then he might not had won anything ......


any dog can win good placements if he is exhibited on IGOR's owner name........

dog shows are fixed and good for rich people to make money!!!

one of the best dog which came to india this season, fabulous confirmation and with a type look as his sire.
no doubt he will also prove himself as a good producer.
good luck.

one of the best dog which came to india this season, fabulous confirmation and with a type look as his sire.
no doubt he will also prove himself as a good producer.
good luck.

Dux Della Valcuvia has the most ideal croup.Quantum Arminius has passed this on to his progeny. Dux ,Quantum & Zamp..the awsome THREE !

V 3 Indian Sieger 2008 - Igor von der Rommelsbach
Igor is awesome male from Quantum line in INDIA
Hope to see miracles from this awesome dog

VOG

MATURED A LOT.STRONG AND FANTASTIC MALE.ALL THE BEST TO DOGMATIX TEAM.

check new picture of V 3 Indian Sieger 2008 Igor von der Rommelsbach, He is looking great.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/515167.html


congratulation Dogmatix Kennel.....

I Think Kiran is Vishal's side Kick.... he moved better that Franjo any day...If you had guts you should have objected and asked for action against Bob and its owner instead of talking now....

If owner of this dog stay with good sportsman spirit everybody will like him and his good dog.this is great example nobody says bad about this dog because he is good dog no dought about it. dont forgat most of time he act like a mr.FIXTURE,he is bad looser,unless he change his attitude nothing is going to change in this country?infact people will remember him forever of doing justice for GSD game of india.

good dog.Nice perfomer too.Definitely better than painted dog like bob.He deserves the second place.

Beautiful Dog.... much better than Seiger Franjo

this is a beautiful dog... you can say the best dog exhibited at the sieger show...much better than the indian sieger FRANJO....this dog is a magnificient mover n the most imp thing... that is this dog has got an excellent crope....i am saying its the most important thing because not only in india but also in germany the breeders r struggling to breed dogs wit good crope...this clearly shows that mr sanjit mohanty (bob) n mr sanjay desai have got very good contacts in germany...this dog was placed sg40 at the sieger show in germany....congratulations n all the best team dogmatix...

Congrats to Mr.Sanjay and Mr.Mohanty. Good dog and was handled very good.A nice quantum son hope he stays to see him at the next Indian sieger show in Coimbatore.

Hi all,

Submitted a pic of Igor taken in the sieger show line up.... he was a very good dog, good in anatomy and over all strength, off course he need to mature more but that is with very dog.

If people have problem with BOB being painted (which I guess he is not... see Bob’s gallery.. for the same) then for sure Igor should have been placed on top as V1, but this is really disappointing to see such sluggish sieger....

I would say that if at all the show was proper (and not fixed), congrats to the Handler for making this dog move up to judges expectations.

Taking about the dog in context, I liked his anotomy, drive and strength while moving. His bloodlines also supports him t be a very good stud, but for sure time will tell the fate of every GSD in INDIA.

Take care

Cyrus

Congrats to Mr.Sanjay and Mr.Mohanty. Good dog and was handled very good. He has a lot of time to mature. We should wait to see him at the next Indian sieger show in Coimbtore.

Fantastic Male placed V3 at the Indian Sieger show 2008,Congratulations to the owner.

Wonderful son of the great Quantum Arminius! Fantastic mover..deserved higher placement at the Indian Sieger Show.Quite young still! Congratulations to the owner.