Czech GSD's with bad hips - Page 53

There is no question that genetics play a part, however, please someone tell me how hips are no better than 20 years ago, despite all the selective breeding?

Also, for the moderators, I mailed you over a week ago as I cannot  believe you are allowing a kennel's name to be used in the title of this thread. It strikes me that there is little evidence to support such a slight, and it should be removed. 

I know I'm off topic but this dog looks amazing. Is he still around?


http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/dog.html?id=560337


http://www.alpinek9.com/PardzJirkovadvora.html

@bcrawford  Off topic? It's ok, I'm glad you put him here! I agree, he is gorgeous! How can I find a dog like him??? A working line dog who is black and tan colored like him???? Of course I don't need another male(or another dog right now), but eventually I want one that color, classic GSD look.

Looking back in history there were a lot of blk/tan that had good work desire. There are still some today but IMHO not as much as there were. And I saying that only from looking at sites that produce dogs for these types of purposes you do not see many blk/tan in comparison to other colors. I feel like I also need to state that color has NO factor on if the dog can work or not. Er, maybe I should say a particular color does not mean a dog would be able to work more or did I just say them same thing? I know you did not question it I'm just throwing it out there as CYA before someone calls me on it.

To get it I'm assuming you would have to have the right blk/tan strong female that is mated to one of those guys. Of course you should always breed for health/temprament first. A desired coloring outcome would be a bonus.

They have another great looker that is also blk/tan/working line:

Zen z Jirkova dvora
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/dog.html?id=560337

I think Zen has passed

Zen passed from bloat.....was a great stud dog.  His son Orion z JD is carrying his father's mantle forward, but he is not a "classic B&T" but more of a blanket B&T.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/dog.html?id=1860541

Pard is as serious as they come, just like his mother Yska and grand-father Balli Panta-Rei.  Balli in particular is where the seriousness is probably coming from, even though his father Quanto is no pushover either from that perspective.

Dante, selective breeding??
Just read what the breeders on this board/thread say about hips. 
Dogs with bad hips in their pedigree are STILL being bred.

Red Sable, I understand your point, but there is obviously more emphasis on hips nowadays than there was in , say, the 60s. 

In enlightened countries, breeding stock MUST be evaluated to allow their offspring to be registered? Correct? That is what I meant.